You are right that we should not ask for information they may not know. Practice tolerance, kindness and charity. by lwelsch (LWelsch@gmail.com) on Fri May 19th, 2006 at 04:55:59 PM EDT http://home.comcast.net/~PoliticalThoughts/index.html [ Parent ]
has truthout or a mod suddenly taken it upon themselves to "out" some members email addresses for defending others???
ATTN: moderator...can you explain why my email address would suddenly be displayed when I know for a fact I did not input it in the display? by yourguide on Sun May 21st, 2006 at 10:47:27 AM EDT [ Parent ]
and by the way, I would venture to guess that most of the folks posting on this board have indeed questioned whther george bush lied about WMD and was indeed warned about 9/11.
you are setting a dangerous tone here sir (or madam). to blindly accept on either side is dangerous, and for example got this country into this war in iraq. so yes, it is quite american to question things when the facts dont add up...and even when they do.
for now, in this case the facts do not add up. there are basic journalistic standards that reporters should follow. for now it appears that the story is false and it is my right and every readers right to question, ask, poke, and prod until we get some real answers. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 04:29:52 PM EDT [ Parent ]
I wanted Rove indicted, badly, and still do but for you to dare suggest that we always take whatever we are fed by any media source is foolish and again dangerous.
Questions and discussion should be welcome on this topic. You certainly shouldnt be chastizing anyone who asks questions from an educated and professional point of view.
And as for ed burke answering your questions, he shouldnt have to. Your questions were ludicrous and myopic. Open your eyes, this situation is not good and for you to blast someone for asking questions is childish and irresponsible. I hope more ask questions, we deserve answers. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 04:46:04 PM EDT [ Parent ]
I see then, freedom of speech provided you watch what you say huh?
so when we question the war, etc. suddenly we are no longer "patriots" which is jibberish. that mindset also holds true when ed burke questions the validity of this article suddenly he's a troll and warrants an attack?
really, what I've just stated has quite a bit a validity to it and you havent said anything to properly refute it. in fact you should think long and hard about what I just said.
I for one welcome ed burke and all members who are not blindly led solely by what we are told.
and may karl rove still be indicted... by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 05:42:33 PM EDT [ Parent ]
Perhaps you should be the one to go back and re-read what you said. I wasnt the only one suggesting perhaps you went a bit overboard putting it mildly.
You owe ed burke and apology and a proper welcome. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 06:32:51 PM EDT [ Parent ]
and freedom of speech is everyone's business. and I have not at all been rude, you are the one who has been rude and completely out of check. perhaps that's where your signature truly came from.
and no, ed burke is not in need of my defense but I must say your response to him was completely out of order and since it was on a public board I had and have every right to respond. and will continue to do so. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 06:57:59 PM EDT [ Parent ]
second, your rude and bully-ish to that poster reeked of intimidation tactics. it was rude and out of check. you are out of check for being rude and intimidating towards someone asking a valid question, not for exercising your freedom of speech. I haven't levelled any nasty comments at you however if you'd like I can start now and we can take it off this board.
and no one is crucifying you for standing with TO, no one is crucifying you period. however, when valid questions are dismissed and chastized then it reeks of bush administration tactics and it does not belong on this board or anywhere else.
freedom of speech is just that, unless the response is initmidation.
finally, I have been a long time lurker on this board and have consistantly watched you bully people versus foster constructive debate. I will not allow you, and your sarcasm to bully me.
If you want we can take this outside but you still owe ed burke and many many others on this board an apology. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 07:43:07 PM EDT [ Parent ]
So what is your freak out? Lurrrrrrrrrking in the dark around this board waiting for the opportunity to challenge me. Is that what gets you off? Please, greater than you have tried and I still stand firm on what I perceive to be truth and recommend you do the same. Of course you can always resort to getting your boxing gloves out and swinging in thin air. "We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American by emah1 on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 08:04:25 PM EDT [ Parent ]
dictionary.com
syc·o·phant Audio pronunciation of "sycophant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sk-fnt, sk-) n.
A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people.
[Latin scophanta, informer, slanderer, from Greek skophants, informer, from skon phainein, to show a fig (probably originally said of denouncers of theft or exportation of figs) : skon, fig + phainein, to show; see bh-1 in Indo-European Roots.]syco·phantic (-fntk) or syco·phanti·cal (-t-kl) adj. syco·phanti·cal·ly adv. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 08:16:59 PM EDT [ Parent ]
no, and I feel you are a bully because of the way you speak and treat people on this board, not because of your opinion. again, this is about fostering constructive debate. not you standing upon your internet bully pulpit.
and you seem to be the one freaking out because someone has challenged YOU this time and you cant handle it.
and this wish is not a physical threat by any means, when I say take this off this board it means a private conversation via EMAIL.
to gain the respect of others you must treat them with the same respect. I have yet to see others with an opinion differing from yours be treated by respect by you.
reflect upon your actions and your statements. you are such a long time poster that you should have minions coming to your defense but you don't seem to...why is that??? by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 08:11:45 PM EDT [ Parent ]
Out my mind, I've been told that before by those who differ and they're entitled to their opinions. My husband and children have said such things, so if it's no biggy with me to have such comments made by those whom I love and who love me, surely, it doesn't matter to me one iota what you think or say. I'm not hear to make friends although I've made many on this forum, but rather to speak my mind and what I perceive as truth. Agree or disagree, that's up to you.
Those who matter think I'm on point and they're the only ones I concern myself with, nobody else. The semantics don't mean much to me either soon everybody in America will be speaking Spanish anyway. English is a bastard language, grafted into existence from ancient tongues. It's taken you all forever to get this far. So, I don't trip on that. Oh, you wish to fight with me, don't you have anything else better to do? Do you really think I'd give you my email address? That previlege is only for friends and kindred spirits. You don't meet that criteria. "We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American by emah1 on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 09:15:13 PM EDT [ Parent ]
a poster asked, because of the vague explaination TO gave it's readers...
1. Exactly what kind of sources are you guys working with?
2. Why are you "partially" apologizing. Do you expect to vindicated...or do you have no idea and will figure it out when everyone else does?
two very valid questions, both of which I would like to know the answer to.
you responded:
do you support TO? If the response is satisfactory to TO supporters who pay the bills then I think it should be ok with you
first, you dont speak for all truth out supporters and second everyone should think for themselves.
you then asked:
Have you questioned George W. Bush about his sources that fed the WMD lies or 911 sources who warned this administration before 3,000 innocent people were killed?
again, reeks fully of bush administration tactics in the reverse.
you then threw out:
What investigative credentials do you hold, that warrant you to ask such questions?
insinuating the reader has no right to ask such questions.
your truth??? there is no truth in your thought, just lemming like behavior for acceptance on this board. seek the truth, dont just lap up what you are told.
and by the way, EVERYONE deserves to be respected, whether you deem them "important" to you or not. are waiters important to you, do you treat them with respect? what about gas station attendants? anyone who comes here unless spewing venom deserves respect, period. your attitude towards treating people with respect disgusts me.
and finally the "priviledge" of your email address?? see my last post regarding your narcissism. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 09:28:32 PM EDT [ Parent ]
My daughter is working her way through college as a server. My son, who is now a regional manager for a national resturant chain started out as a server and worked his way up through the ranks, I always tip above the going rate for gratuity. There are no more gas station attendants what country are you living in? You call it narcissism I say it's my choice to choose who I associate with.
You whine like the neocons because I don't view issues your way or according to what you dictate as correct. Who are you to think that you have the right to dictate how I'm supposed to think or respond? If you are any indication of what the Liberals have to offer, then you all are in trouble come 11/06 and 08. "We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American by emah1 on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 09:47:40 PM EDT [ Parent ]
check yourself emah1, welcome the debate, seek the truth, and don't bully people who dont agree with you. again, you owe ed an apology... by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 09:54:17 PM EDT [ Parent ]
which was my very point at the beginning of this. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 10:09:00 PM EDT [ Parent ]
let peace begin with me?
goodnight. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 10:25:46 PM EDT [ Parent ]
Constructive debate should be welcomed not shunned.
The bottom line here is every visitor to this board has the right to ask these questions and has the right to the answer provided everyone is respectful of one another.
emah1 was disrespectful of that poster asking a question. it was wrong the way he was treated, she should apologize to him.
considering you guys have a lot of new people on this board you should welcome discussion, not treat people poorly who dont agree - especially in light of the circumstances... by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 09:50:35 PM EDT [ Parent ]
As I have posted here before, you are welcome to your perspective on the reporting of the Rove potential indictment. I have my own. I do not appreciate people coming to this site condemning me for my perspective, calling me names, insinuating that I am stupid and uninformed, and labeling me as a "far left liberal." This is tiresome and boring.
If you have something concrete to offer, something beyond speculation and opinion, I am open. If you are here just to challenge the information of Leopold, give it a rest. The jury is out. If you are here to change my way of thinking, give it UP. That will not happen. If you are here to "perform" for the many viewers who are now checking TO out, good luck. I hope they see you for the imposter you are. by WonderWoman on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 10:17:51 PM EDT [ Parent ]
he didnt name call, pass judgement, come here to harsh on leopold, he simply asked 2 very valid questions.
and I'm not here to harsh on leopold or perform either. I desperately want leopold to be right but in light of the circumstances its more than fair that we should all be able to ask questions provided it in a respectful manner...
check the original few posts from the edburke thread and I think you'll understand why I stuck my neck out as a new poster to defend that guy. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 10:24:43 PM EDT [ Parent ]
Oddly, the mistake and Marc Ash's excuse are a lot like the Bush adminstration's mistake and excuse for not finding WMDs.
And BTW, JFK is not the author of your sig line. An earlier appearance is in a 1942 journal entry by Galeazzo Ciano, Mussolini's foreign minister. However, I would not be surprised if he was just quoting an older folk saying.
Accuracy is important. by demento fan (demento.fan@gmailSPAM.ISEVILcom) on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 06:15:43 PM EDT [ Parent ]
wow, someone who worked for Mussolini huh...man, I am not even going to touch that. by yourguide on Sat May 20th, 2006 at 06:20:46 PM EDT [ Parent ]
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