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By WilliamPitt

Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 10:38:03 AM EDT :: The GOP

"What this issue has done is it has galvanized people the way nothing could have done in an off-election year. That is what I see as the blessing that dear Terri's life is offering to the conservative Christian movement in America."

- Rev. Lou Sheldon, founder of the notoriously anti-gay organization ‘The Traditional Values Coalition’

And O my Lord, how the money rolled in. The quote above comes from a New York Times story describing how far-right groups like Sheldon’s Traditional Values Coalition, along with Operation Rescue and RightMarch.com, are cashing in on the furor that has arisen around the matter of Terri Schiavo. The Puritans believed you could tell if a person was in good graces with the Lord by seeing if they had a lot of money in the bank. Some things, I guess, don’t change.


Rank hypocrisy, of course, is as constant as the North Star. We have progressed beyond hypocrisy this week, however, and are barnstorming towards a kind of fundamentalist theocracy that is cancerous to the basic underpinnings of the republic.

First question: Who is actually running the country? The easy answer is George W. Bush, President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. An easy answer, but wrong. As has been conclusively proven, no catastrophe or threat can dislodge George when he has boll-weevled into his Crawford ‘ranch’ for some sorta-earned vacation time. Yet last week, in the dead of night, he boarded his chariot (which flies at $34,000 per hour using your taxpayer money, by the way) and raced back to Washington to sign that ‘Save Terri’ legislation.

At whose request? Why, at the request of Rep. Tom Delay. The warnings in the summer of 2001 about an imminent and massive terror attack on the United States could not dislodge George from his repose, but DeLay crooks his little finger and George comes a-runnin’.

Mr. DeLay, with the Traditional Values Coalition, Operation Rescue and RightMarch.com at his back, is fast becoming the most powerful politician in Washington. His strength comes from people like this:









These are but a few of the protesters who have followed DeLay, Frist and the fundamentalists into the maw of the Schiavo struggle. While the polls say some 80% of Americans do not approve of the congressional sideshow that has been playing out on this issue, DeLay and his crew know where their collective bread is buttered. People like those depicted above make up the backbone of the GOP, the hard-right flank that always always always votes, and votes Republican. These folks are so devoted a GOP voting bloc that if the God of the Righteous swooped down from Heaven on a flaming chariot and denounced George, DeLay, Frist and the rest as craven scumbags, these folks would petition to have Him arrested for disturbing the peace.

Some of them can be a wee bit too devoted, as was the case of the Florida man arrested for trying to steal a gun so he could “take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo.” I wonder how happy the fundamentalist leadership was upon hearing this story. I’ll bet, secretly, they were pleased. You can’t buy this kind of passion, and if a few eggs get broken in a shootout at the hospice, well, perhaps that’s the price of doing the Lord’s business.

Second question: What is the ultimate goal of all this?

There are a number of answers. This Schiavo matter, clearly, helps these far-right groups line their pockets. It gets the far-right grassroots worked up into a froth. The leaders of this push believe it provides them with a wedge issue with which to attack Florida Democratic Senator Bill Nelson, a supposition yet to be proven. The more strategery-minded in the crew saw it as some cheese dangled before Senate Democrats to lure them into a ‘Culture of Life,’ mudfight, and perhaps as a distraction to deflect attention from the looming battle over the filibuster. Thankfully, the Senate Democrats refused to take the bait.

There’s more to it, though. Much more. The group Americans United for Separation of Church and State got hold of a recording from a March 17-19 meeting of the right-wing group The Family Research Council. Both Rep. DeLay and Sen. Frist spoke at this meeting, and both declared their intention to refashion America into the United States of Jesus. A tasty quote from the confab by Mr. DeLay: "One thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo, to help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America."

According to the Americans United release, during the FRC meeting, Frist and DeLay assured attendees that they would do what it takes to keep Schiavo connected to a feeding tube and also would exert great power to push a whole host of issues central to the Religious Right's agenda. DeLay urged the gathering to contact lawmakers in both chambers to support legislation that would allow churches to become much more involved in partisan politicking. The Texas Republican blasted current federal tax law, which bars both secular and religious nonprofit groups from endorsing political candidates. "It forces Christians back into the church and that's what is going on," DeLay claimed. "That's not what Christ asked us to do. We have to fight back."

I forgot to mention one aspect of this: The Schiavo noise is an excellent blast shield for DeLay, who is facing a raft of serious ethics charges that include a scandal in Texas for his active participation in illegally funneling corporate funds to assist state political campaigns. DeLay's political action committee, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), is under criminal investigation for using corporate money to finance Texas campaigns. DeLay has tried to distance himself from the group, but documents show DeLay "personally forwarded at least one large check" to the group and was "in direct contact with lobbyists for some of the nation's largest companies" on TRMPAC's behalf.

DeLay also has admitted offering to endorse Sen. Nick Smith's (R-MI) son Brad, who was running for Congress at the time, in exchange for Smith's "yea" vote on the Medicare bill. His actions violated House rules and earned DeLay a "public admonishment" from the Ethics Committee. Smith originally alleged - and then retracted after pressure from House leaders - that DeLay also offered a $100,000 bribe for his vote. DeLay extended the role call on the Medicare bill for nearly three hours in order "to avoid an embarrassing loss."

The House ethics panel rebuked DeLay for using government resources to help locate a private plane he thought was carrying Texas Democratic legislators. DeLay was trying to force the legislators back to the capitol so he could push through his "bitterly disputed congressional redistricting." The ethics report cited House rules that bar members from taking "any official action on the basis of the partisan affiliation…of the individuals involved" and said DeLay's behavior raised "serious concerns" under such "standards of conduct."

DeLay also used a children's charity, Celebrations for Children Inc., as cover for collecting soft money from anonymous interest groups, some of which was used for "dinners, a golf tournament, a rock concert, Broadway tickets and other fundraising events" at the Republican convention in New York. Because the money was supposedly for charity, companies wishing to curry favor with DeLay were able to do so without revealing themselves as campaign donors. Federal laws governing tax-exempt charities allow no more than an insubstantial portion of a group's revenue to be spent on activities other than the charity's main stated purpose.

You don’t suppose...nah, he wouldn’t use a dying woman to help save his career, power and position. He’s a good Christian man.

In the end, we appear to be witnessing yet another Classic GOP Overreach. While DeLay, Frist and Jeb Bush snuggle in the warm bosom of the far-right, the rest of the country is looking at these guys as if they are certifiably deranged...which, really, is not too far off the mark. The hand of the Democrats in the looming filibuster fight has been strengthened by this debacle, as few Americans outside the fundamentalist community think these guys have shown themselves to be able to handle the power they already have, and never mind the unlimited reach they’ll get if the filibuster goes poof. George has gone Full Turtle on this, tucking his head into his shell and waiting for the bad noise to stop. Meanwhile, there is money to be made off Ms. Schiavo…if you know the right people.

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Just the lyrics to a millions songs playing in my head to drown out the insanity...so here's the accompaniment for this story. "And the Lord uses the good ones. The bad ones use the Lord..."

Let's Get The Show On The Road
from "Stagepass"(Live at the Agora), 1976, EMI Records Group

Let's get the show on the road, babe
At the curtain, take a bow
New Haven, just a rendezvous to take you to
a lover--who was then, but never now
Susan played the lady
who called the players' songs
Just a figurine of stagehand reveries
Guess up-and-coming can't be that wrong...

Let's get the show on the road, babe
Spotlights on the stage
Ah, my, it seems I've heard these words before
Did you forget to turn the page?
And remember what they told you
about how 'the show goes on'
How can you come back, if you've never gone away?
How can you sing--how can you sing without a song...

     (CHORUS:)
     And today's for sale
     And it's all you can afford
     By your own admission
     Well, the whole thing's got you bored
     And the Lord uses the good ones
     The bad ones use the Lord...

Let's get the show on the road, babe
Better take a look around
Ya got one thing to remember
when you're climbing to the top
You'd better know the way back down...
I can't believe you'd really stumble
But then, I always knew you'd fall
It seems so easy, to say 'I knew you when'
I'd rather it was not at all

     (CHORUS TWICE)

    --words & music by Michael Stanley


by whatever on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 11:12:03 AM EDT http://www.gstlnorml.org

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"Crazy Train"  by the maybe not so crazy Ozzy Osbourne

Crazy, but that's how it goes
Millions of people living as foes
Maybe it's not too late
To learn how to love
And forget how to hate

Mental wounds not healing
Life's a bitter shame
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

I've listened to preachers
I've listened to fools
I've watched all the dropouts
Who make their own rules
One person conditioned to rule and control
The media sells it and you have the role

Mental wounds still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

I know that things are going wrong for me
You gotta listen to my words
Yeh-h

Heirs of a cold war
That's what we've become
Inheriting troubles I'm mentally numb
Crazy, I just cannot bear
I'm living with something that just isn't fair

Mental wounds not healing
Who and what's to blame
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix
by Christine on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 11:34:48 AM EDT
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Good ol' Reverend Lou the bigot sure is something else.  As I have posted previously, I have the misfortune of knowing the good reverend.  While in college, his son Steve was my debate team partner and I got to spend my hours in the TVC headquarters.  

At the time I was an addict, addicted to the right-wing Kool-Aid, and in need of intervention.  I was able to move freely amongst "the flock" and they openly discussed their agenda in front of, and with, me.  They talked of funding stealth candidates to take over school boards and city council's and they succeeded.  Then they talked about branching out to statehouses, congress and eventually the presidency.  I thought they were a bit crazy if they thought they would be successful at these levels.  It looks like I thought wrong.

Thankfully I was rescued and born-again on April 29, 1992 as a result of the Rodney King verdicts.  When I say born-again, I mean my eyes were opened and my brain began to function rationally.  I do not mean born-again in a religious sense.

Trust me when I tell you this, these people, that being the Christo-Facist leaders, really are scary.  They are driven by hate and bigotry.  Those that follow them really are good people that have been led astray.  The followers don't realize or refuse to believe that this is all about money.  Sheldon uses issues like Terri Schiavo or gay marriage to line the pockets of him and his family and really has no conviction or moral belief in what he preaches.

An example of this was when his son Steve crusaded around the fundamentalist churches of California to enlist the services of fellow "Christian's" in defeating the "evil" Indian's and their casinos.  He preached that these were the tools of Satan and that gambling was "sinful" and "immoral".  There was just one small problem, Steve failed to mention that Las Vegas gambling lobbyists were paying him over $250,000 for his crusading efforts to save us from Indian gaming.

I've witnessed their hypocrisy first hand.  Now as a result of the Schiavo case the whole nation has too.  That is why I say that this case is as Sheldon said, "a blessing".  However, he was wrong in thinking it was a blessing for conservatives.  It is a blessing for all those who have not fallen under the neo-con spell, because this have opened up many of their eyes to see what kind of whack jobs they have been supporting.  I think this might just scare a number of folks straight and put to rest this Christo-Facist extremist takeover of America.  
Sean H. Mill
by interventSean (SeanHMill@vivenet.com) on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 11:32:07 AM EDT http://theinsurgency.blogeasy.com/

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I have noticed at least two people on this board who have seen the error of their formerly rightist ways. If you guys can do it, there's hope.

"Progressive Principles: The 12-step program for recovering Republicans."
by Paula on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 04:29:25 PM EDT http://www.progressiveprinciples.com
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Thanks for your cogent post to Will Pitt's Blog.

It gives a wizzened Unitarian like myself hope that most of America isn't totally crazy like the "performers" jerking their sanctimonious and hypocritical rocks off in public at Terri Schiavo's expense . . . or totally cynical like the right-wing hucksters of which you speak from first-hand knowledge.

Your post will doubtless pull the crazies out of the woodwork to e-mail that your soul is in peril.  We both know that isn't true.

So, take heart.  There are MILLIONS of Americans like me, with mental acuity more like yours; and only a few misguided Americans who will - unfortunately for all of us - learn the hard way . . .

NoMoreMrsNiceGuy
7th Generation American Revolution

by NoMoreMrsNiceGuy on Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 12:55:41 PM EDT
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Yes, these folks are no "majority"!  They are receiving attention as if they were, yet a figure of 22% has recently been postulated, and I think even THAT may be rather high.  Over and over we hear that the majority "voted" for their own 'rulings' on the "issues"-- those that these people try to push off onto the rest of us, but those pushing these "issues" are only a minority of even those who voted for rerooting the shrub, and the "majority" vote counted for that was not the majority vote that was cast, anyway!  IMHO, I do firmly believe, that about 60% of the people who voted in 2004, voted Dem., not for Bush&co., and CERTAINLY not for the far-flung reich-right neo-evangelical minority portion of the Bush&co "base".

WE ARE the majority!~~~~~
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"Give up those treasured wounds, let go the tempting memory of the pain...." Buffe St.Marie
by G Achin (XLexcel at zia net dot com TruthOut in subj.line) on Tue Mar 29th, 2005 at 04:50:18 AM EDT http://www.zianet.com/XLexcel/moons.html
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Theocracies are founded on a us (the moral) vs them (the immoral) mindset. Theocracies need this threat against "us" idea to hold onto power. As soon the ruling class defeats the "enemy" it has to turn on some of its own who they decide are not "good" enough. Israel was founded on the idea of a homeland for Jewish people, now there are all sorts of fights over "who is a Jew". The Soviet Union* was founded as a Communist state, soon there were fights between the leadership over who was a "real revolutionary". Eventually it became a simple dictatorship under Stalin who purged people at will.

The idea of a Christian theocracy should frighten everyone. First they will go after the "safe" minorities, Hindus, Bhuddests, Wiccan, Pagan, Atheists (such as myself). Soon they will turn on non Christians. Then they will turn on Catholics and other non baptists. Then non Evangelical Baptists. Even if you think that you're a good Christian, even if you are a loyal Pat Robertson decipel, even if you think you are in with the ruling class, eventually you will be found wanting.

I have had discussions with people from the Radical Right who did not know that I was an Atheist. (As an aside, acting classes are very useful. I've been able to talk with all sorts of wakkos and get them to open up because they think I'm of like mind. It can be very informative.)

I have been told that non Christians should not be allowed to work for the government at any level. That non Christians should lost their citizenship. That anyone who is gay or even supports gay rights should never be allowed near children, even if this means taking away their own children and/or imprisoning the adult. That only Evangelicals should have any rights. That America has a duty to convert the rest of the world to Christianity (even if it is at the point of a gun), regardless of the cost because this is the prelude to the Rapture. The list goes on and on. The important thing is that these are not the ravings of people screaming at passerby's on street corners. These are our neighbors, people at Republican caucuses, people at rallies. These are people in positions of power. These opinions are not spoken openly but they are a subtext that is circulating in the halls of power.

They are very dangerous. Absolute certainty combined with a belief in an afterlife and the supremacy of the gun is a recipe for disaster.

*Communism was a political ideology but in many ways it took on religious patterns of behavior.

by geoduck on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:08:45 PM EDT

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Agreed.  Remember it was the Christian Theocrats that brought the world the Spanish Inquisition.  They went after the Muslims, then the Jews, then the Protestants, then Catholic heretics etc.  The Inquisition machine could not stop.  It became like a living thing always seeking new prey.  

They wrecked Spain's economy and standing in the world in the process of carrying out their faith-based initiative.
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by chart (chart) on Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 03:24:24 PM EDT
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This is getting pretty scary, when you read news from outside the US, that deals with American policy, and how America is ignoring everyone, while tearing apart anything standing in their way.  What really confuses the daylights out of me is the way these so-called 'religious and life loving' fanatics will grab a gun and start blazing away at the nearest 'liberal' or opposition target they can find.  And if it turns out they hit the wrong target, they rationalize it away by saying 'They probably deserved it anyways.'  F--K A RAT!  What's even scarier is the way people worship the little worm, even though a lot of his idiocy has been revealed as pure lies by other sources, even ones that should outweigh his lies.  Every time someone points out the errors in something said by this administration, some idiot pundit yips off about how they're trying to tear down the country, and they should just 'Shut up.', or they outright call you a liar for suggesting such a thing.  Such jingoism is truly frightening, especially when you see it OUTSIDE the US.  It seems NO ONE is able to puncture this 'Bubble' they have going here.  One has to wonder how anyone can stop these evil bastards.  Even when someone points out that Hitler walked these exact same steps in his 'wonderful' (I use the term tongue in cheekily, of course) campaign that ended up exterminating Jews and 'other' undesirables in Germany, everyone looks at you like you are nuts.  They say, 'Oh, that's just silly.  G.B. is such a NICE man.  And so religious, too!'  I gag every time I hear that.  I have to wonder how long it will be before the US has turned itself into a Nazi-copy, and starts rounding up Muslims.  Oh, wait, they already did that, but they let them go didn't they?  Or did they?  They may have let the 'little ones' go for now, but I get the feeling there might come a time when there will be a 'Night of Glass' happening in America.  Karl Marx said it well.  "Religion is the opiate of the masses."  I do think Mr. Hayes has the right of it, when he mentions that grass-roots reforms and activism will turn the country around.  If you want your country back, it's time to take the show on the road as he advocates.  I'm off to find the nearest group of activists I can find, with a clear plan, and if they don't have one but do have a good core group, I'm going to try to help them get a clear plan of action and help them implement it, and get some exposure in the world about dissenting viewpoints.  It's time and past get off our asses and kick a few of theirs out of places they shouldn't be.  It seems to have worked in Kyrgyzstan, but now I hear that the bastard didn't leave the country, but took shelter on the American base there.  Whatever happens next, people should keep a close eye on, as I am sure Bush et al will have some input.  
While I may not worship like others, I do have faith. The faith that most people will take advantage of one another without fail. Pagan Priest
by PaganPriest on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:10:41 PM EDT
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"Even when someone points out that Hitler walked these exact same steps..."

Oh isn't that the truth! I've gone down that road. Can't even whisper Hitler without them losing their "we're okay!" minds. Seems as if popular belief can't get it's arms around the fact that Bush is, in fact, taking over from within, exactly as Hitler did. Can't even agree about the facts. They end up saying stuff like...we just hate Bush. Oh sure, forget the nation, it's all about our personal feelings about one little rich oil man.

And we're pre-war Germany. Springtime with Hitler in Germany? Flowers are beautiful this year.

In the end, I guess I feel sorry but bitter, and believe that if the American people are so easily snowed, and allow this to continue, with the power to stop it in their own hands, ignored? At this point, with the rest of the free world telling us otherwise...I can't help but feel like these simple fools will deserve what they get. Honestly. I know we say it often enough, but I think we're there now. Americans, my education being typical public school - except for the unnatural habit I developed of reading for pleasure - might not have learned a LOT in school, but we learned basic principles, enough to know better than this state of the union. We learned about tyranny. We learned about dictatorships. We had the mighty USSR to NOT be like, didn't we? NOT be like them.

I feel sorry for those that get caught up, but for the complacent fat, dumb and happy middle class in this nation? As compared to the poor slobs in Iraq? I can't feel sorry for the fat, dumb and happy anymore. It's just not in me.

And not to jump on a soap box, but...for the retired folks with the world at their fingertips, traveling and spending money on bingo, gambling, pleasure seekers all? Oh sure, worry about Social Security, while you feed off the young. Sorry, but please. Folks are starving, in prison, we're at war...and where is the AARP? Worried about retirement.

Wish I had the luxary to worry about my retirement right now. I'm worrying about getting my children out of this country we've made. Them's some evil retirees that don't care about anything but their SS fund. And I won't feel real sorry for them either, selling out their own country by just not noticing it's falling down. Allowing themselves to be lulled to sleep, with pretty drugs and all the best health care. Going on cruises and visiting the grandkids. Second childhood, playtime all the time. Where's the wisdom? I'm just disgusted.


by whatever on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 01:22:35 PM EDT http://www.gstlnorml.org
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WAKE UP AND LOOK AROUND INSTEAD OF MAKING ASSUMPTIONS!
This 65 year old, was working as the Town Janitor, last year to make ends meet on my Widow's Pension! Yes they took about $7.00 or $8.00 out of each paycheck for SS.
The point is this.............when I was in my 20's, the bosses & CEO's lived out their lives in the executive office, meaning retirement at 65 at the earliest.  ( They only made 60 times that of their workers not 400 times as today!) That made advancement slow for the younger ones.
I am an "eclipse generation", meaning pre boomer.!  We grew up in wartime, rationing, fear, uncertainty, insufficiency, close on the heels of the Depression! BUT WITH GOOD HEALTHY FRESH VEGETABLES!  ( we are healthier than average; live longer, contrary to those bogus statistics, about people living longer.....................I think they have it backwards.....the way I see it the younger you are the more poisons you've been exposed to!) Input welcome on that theory......
The Boomers, ( future me-generation) born when the soldiers came home from War victorious, grew up in a sugar rush, Dr. Spock's "feed on demand" rather than on schedule. ( Nowa days everything seems to run on demand instead of schedule????)
Everybody was a little lax and festive, GI bills for housing and education pushed the financial gains envelope.
It was our ideas that started the social revolution, NOT the BOOMers. They were our willing teen-corps of eager workers, the oldest just 16 years  when the civil rights movement began!
Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, etc. were of my peer group! While we were patiently working our way up the ladder, hard working, patient, waiting for that CEO to take HIS gold watch and retire............he may be the one you are thinking about, traveling around Fla. And AZ in the Winabego, playing bingo)
....WE GOT SCREWED! THERE WAS A HOSTILE TAKEOVER IN 1990. ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CEO'S WERE 40 YEARS OLD, AND WE DIDNT QUITE WORK THE WAY IT SUITED THEM, SO WE GOT DOWNSIZED, EARLY RETIRED, CAST ADRIFT!
I LIVE IN A CHEAP RURAL AREA OF 55-70 YEAR OLD FINANCIAL REFUGEES.
YOU WANT STORIES I'VE GOT A LIST FOR YOU!
ONE FRIEND JUST HAD HER WATER RESTORED! She's lived without it all winter! When the pump froze they couldn't afford to replace it! Fortunately there is a spring in the basement, to haul water from!!! Other friends 401 K's are reduced to pennies by the "free market" of the last several years, and they live frugally too!
As for the Grandchildren.....I get to see mine twice a year! whow! I can't afford to buy them Christmas or Birthday presents, so I try to make our visits mentally and emotionally valuable!
My daughter could really use some relief, I would love to be there to help them do their homework after school. But there's NO WAY I could afford to live anywhere near them!
When I was a child, I could walk to my Grandmother's house after school. She provided me with an important balance to my often difficult relationship with my Mother. SHe ran a bording house for Old ladies uuntil she was 82, to suppliment her small Widows Pension, and my Uncle, and Father, allowed her the dignity of her Independance, by helping out financially if needed.
Maybe you are thinking of the early retireees. The 40 somethings that focused all their efforts on early retirement, ( the ones with their hands in my slim pockets this last decade) who have invaded our little world to buy up old farm houses and resell them for $400,00. throwing the entire tax structure of the area out of whack and making it tough for all us regular folks, the modest retirees, and the native fishing community?
As I learned in the real estate field years ago to Assume means to make an ASS out of U And ME.
Please be a little more thourough before making sweeping statements!
R U Cognizant

R U
by rucognizant on Sun Mar 27th, 2005 at 05:54:53 AM EDT
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By the way, get yourself a good dictionary and use it; your spelling is atrocious, and know that these EVIL RETIRED FRIENDS OF MINE, have been working our tails off, tirelessly, politically all year, NOT playing BINGO!
R U
by rucognizant on Sun Mar 27th, 2005 at 06:01:43 AM EDT
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Well, first, you misspelled thorough. But my spelling is lousy, so I wouldn't mention it if you hadn't brought up the dreaded dictionary.

To my

"And not to jump on a soap box, but...for the retired folks with the world at their fingertips, traveling and spending money on bingo, gambling, pleasure seekers all? Oh sure, worry about Social Security, while you feed off the young. Sorry, but please. Folks are starving, in prison, we're at war...and where is the AARP? Worried about retirement.
Wish I had the luxary to worry about my retirement right now. I'm worrying about getting my children out of this country we've made. Them's some evil retirees that don't care about anything but their SS fund. And I won't feel real sorry for them either, selling out their own country by just not noticing it's falling down. Allowing themselves to be lulled to sleep, with pretty drugs and all the best health care. Going on cruises and visiting the grandkids. Second childhood, playtime all the time. Where's the wisdom? I'm just disgusted"

You said

"WAKE UP AND LOOK AROUND INSTEAD OF MAKING ASSUMPTIONS!
This 65 year old, was working as the Town Janitor, last year to make ends meet on my Widow's Pension! Yes they took about $7.00 or $8.00 out of each paycheck for SS.
The point is this.............when I was in my 20's, the bosses & CEO's lived out their lives in the executive office, meaning retirement at 65 at the earliest.  ( They only made 60 times that of their workers not 400 times as today!) That made advancement slow for the younger ones"

and

"Please be a little more thourough before making sweeping statements"

I use sweeping statments whenever it seems appropriate, for shock value sometimes. I don't begrudge anyone all the leisure they can afford in retirement. But I'd like them to wake up.

My impression is that they, as a voting group, delude themselves if they think Social Security is the most pressing issue right now. Whether they're well off or just getting by; it will hardly matter what the government see fit to do with their money, if the government stops answering to the people. Social Security won't matter! The government will do anything it pleases, and the President thinks far less of the welfare of the retired "Average American Worker" than you percieve I do, that I can promise you.

It's the attention of the AARP on any issue other than SS that I think is lacking, their attention with which I think they're being selfish, their wisdom I feel they aren't using. It's NOT that I think seniors are swimming in dough, that they should spend it on politics, or that they wouldn't deserve wealth if it were theirs. In terms of leisure, realistically, they're the only one's left with expendable income. Leisure activities are virtually owned by seniors and I feel they follow the mainstream media too much. Are being lulled into complacency. And CAN be a selfish group of folks. I know what I'm talking about, I've been to Arizona. The retired community is a BIG community.

Finally, this is all my perception. I saw that great commercial AARP put out on SS, and I wish they had that kind of support for other issues. It bothers me. They should be realizing by now that Bush is selling us out on a larger scale than economics, The reason they're fighting now is that Bush is trying to cut benefits, making SS an immediate concern now, and I commend that. But I think their opposition to his admin should have come long before this, not just when he threatened SS. What quality of life will they have, living in a dictatorship?

Damaging SS is going to hurt a lot of people, but that's because this admin is hurting people period, not just retired folks. I think the senior community as a whole is surprisingly short sighted to not realize that, was slow to realize the SS plan was a farce, and should be nothing but critical of this Admin. I think the retired community has a lot of political power, and I wish they'd really start using it now. I don't know what else to say, I think they'll be sorry if they don't become more aware and more active in other political issues.

by whatever on Sun Mar 27th, 2005 at 05:17:19 PM EDT http://www.gstlnorml.org
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Sorry about thorough! I did that rant yesterday, on about 4 hours of sleep, with a brain resembling Sponge Bob Square pants, being afflicted with this awful virus, that's going around.
OF COURSE SS isn't the only, or the most important issue!  We've taken them all on, as they evolved!
For a year now we've been publishing and distributing at our own expense, a newsletter, called "More Common Sense" dealing with all the issues as they come along. Our Senator's aides, recognize our voices when we call in; once again.  Our Senators ( Republicans both) are being some what independant, and in some cases rallying to the side of the Democrats. That didn't happen in a vacuum, they are listening to us, their constituants!
( They  FLUNKED the bancruptcy bill big time and were instantly rewarded for their support, by the closing of several MBNA centers in Maine & NH, and the loss of 500 jobs!)
I'm using my "paid for" leisure time to gain and distribute knowledge, by reading, and searching online, economics, political science, history, religion............................and then  broadcasting it, wherever there is an opening. I'm that stranger that comes up to you in the market, and starts chatting up issues! I aim for the young people, because they have been subjected to propagandized education, and have NO ACTUAL MEMORY of pre-Reagan society.  I was a liberated single woman, running my own business successfully, and IMMEDIATELY felt the squeeze in 1980! Ten years later, had no business!
In at least 50% of the chat sessions, I do enlighten, these poor overworked young parents trying to balance 2 jobs and child care. They don't have the time to spend, that I do and they are usually receptive to what I say!
You do have a point though. Perhaps we need to send an evangelical progressive group of Seniors, to those Senior retirement communities in the Southwest! Although, I prefer, succession of the Blue States, and leave the residents of Red Dumfuckistan to harvest their folly!
It's your perogative to go where you wish................but when you get where you are going, give some thought to encouraging, trade with Maine. We do nice stuff.........and certainly used to make BETTER shoes, than the Chinese!
RU Cognizant!
 
R U
by rucognizant on Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 08:08:49 AM EDT
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OH, hey, thanks for your comment! I noticed the one you posted below, and came back up here to repost what I'd written. But I see your reply here.

Thank you for going out of your way to be fair, I appreciate that. I should have been more careful not to insult people without reason, and I should have been more specific about seeing the elders as having the most resources as a group by virtue of having been careful with their money, being the one's that "made it", not as being undeserving. Not as being foolish or wasting their time with leisure pursuits; it's what we ALL want! :) And certainly NOT to say seniors have it well off in general. It's not my impression that seniors are having an easy time right now, as a whole. I thought the fact that I hadn't said they didn't deserve their money or fun time was enough, but I can see it still had that tone. I think I was baiting. Not good. Sorry about your being ill! Been there myself recently; hope you feel better very soon and that you have good weather and sunshine :)

When I talk about play time, what I have seen is that many leisure activities, such as gambling and traveling, are predominantly retiree. I ask for more social responsibility, and yes, especially for those with the leisure time, to participate. I guess, simply, it's not that most retirees are well off...it's that most well off folks are retirees. Even if it's just a fraction of seniors overall. If you're on a cruise, going out for the evening, you can easily see that this group has a large number of folks with expendable income and leisure time. That, combined with more experience, worldly wisdom, assuming a vested interest in the welfare of their communities, it makes a difference, I think. Because this group is a powerful voting voice.

I guess I think it could make a difference, especially since this is basically the most conservative group of citizens. It seems if THEY decided to put their efforts to stopping the many goals of this corrupt Admin, it would help. And if they don't, if they instead choose, as a group, such as the AARP, to only involve themselves with retirement issues? Well, I can easily understand that is what their group is primarily for, but in the current political situation, there are larger influences at work over their money. AND their country. If THEY decided to get loud, stout conservatives facing down this "conservative" admin? They stand a chance. They won't be slandered. They won't be "out-Christian-ed". It might help.

Finally, I just get disgusted, because it seems if they don't get involved in other affairs, they'll regret it. As we'll ALL regret it, if our nation slides completely into fascism. Simple constitutional conservatism would be enough. Maybe I  am a little whiney, a little selfish. I want my mommy? I don't know, I want the older folks to help, gamble with something else...something that matters! Those that do have the means...should care about more than SS right now. Especially for their fellow retirees that aren't as well off, because that number of people isn't going to be getting any smaller. Certainly any hardship is harder for someone not in the "prime of health" age group. It's just that much worse to be unemployed, just that much worse to be homeless. That much worse a tragedy to let happen.

From reading your post, it sounds like you know all these facts and many more. I couldn't be preaching more to the choir! Thanks for your post, and I wish you good luck in all your efforts!

p.s. And hey, for you, I spell-checked ;)

by whatever on Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 10:18:49 AM EDT http://www.gstlnorml.org
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After working for 40-45 years, retirees have earned the right to a well-deserved trip or two.  Because they spend a few hour in a casino or playing bingo does not mean that they will spend the rest of their lives doing that.  Who is to say that they are not as active politically as you are?  Unless you are right behind them watching their every move, you can not judge them.

Since I retired almost a year ago, I spend more than half the day, every day, reading political messages, and replied to petitions and contributing to various political causes.  I am not an American citizen (yet), and care much more about what happens to this country than "natives," people who have been born here.  It scares me to think that this country is going to hell in a handbasket because of religious fanatics who think they know God personally and will use any- and everything in a political context to try to earn points.  This administration's tactic is "keep them scared." That's also the way religion works.

As for AARP, I quickly abandoned this organization when they sided with the Bush administration in the drug issue.

Another thing that really irks me is that people will sell their own country for a dime by shopping at Wal-Mart.  But, that's another story in itself.  I have seen this coming for several years now.  I have boycotted Wal-Mart for at least ten years.  Pretty soon, every country will wake up saluting the Chinese flag and wonder what happened.

Monmon

- The majority is usually wrong, but the majority rules!

by monmon on Tue Mar 29th, 2005 at 12:23:17 AM EDT http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml
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"As for AARP, I quickly abandoned this organization when they sided with the Bush administration in the drug issue."

After reading what you said about the AARP, I don't think we disagree. I'm a libertarian; I truly believe people deserve to keep what is their own. It's not that I think they're obligated. More like I think their vision is too narrow, and right now, that's a dangerous problem.

It's the fact that the AARP sided with Bush at all that has bothered me. It seems like, at this point in time when it's clear the Admin is...out of whack...they should be that much more active in helping to undo the damage that's been done, and taking an active role in thwarting further damage to the country. I think they, I guess the organizations primarily, have a responsibility to remove even the appearance of their support for this Administration. Not just Social Security, but that's all I've seen any movement on.

As far as not being able to judge other retiree activities, well, I can't argue, I only know what I see, so it's just my perception. I haven't witnessed much concern about Bush. It feels much more status quo, business as usual, passing dissatisfaction but no immediate danger. What can I say, it feels like the Titanic to me.


by whatever on Tue Mar 29th, 2005 at 05:33:26 AM EDT http://www.gstlnorml.org
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This MSNBC.com story is a good example of why I wish the AARP and other groups would take on other issues as well. Take on Bush Co. This group could do it. They can't be out-spent, they can't be out-"conservative-ed", and they won't be shut up. These folks could take him on. These folks could confront this Admin, if they had a mind to, imho. These folks could save our nation. I just, sorta, wish they would. It's unrealistic, I know, I know.

Over this week and last, AARP, the nation's largest lobby, will have spent more than $5 million on ads attacking the president's Social Security plan -- nearly three times as much as all the supporters of his proposal put together. That's just for starters.

Every state that has a swing-vote senator will have AARP forums, which have been drawing about 300 people each. And every time a member of Congress holds a town meeting, AARP volunteers are dispatched there to protest the president's plan for individual accounts.

by whatever on Wed Mar 30th, 2005 at 06:29:08 AM EDT http://www.gstlnorml.org
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When Christain Crusaders invaded the Holy Land (11th - 13th centuries) among their rallying cries was: "Kill em all!  God will know his own.".  Things haven't changed much, huh?
Great wealth is simply insufficient fodder on which to nurture humankind at its best.
by Traesom on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 03:21:47 PM EDT http://aardvarknews.blogspot.com/
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Actually, this statement ("Kill them all" etc.) was allegedly made at the massacre at Beziers, France, in 1209, during the Catholic crusade against the Cathars (Albigensians).  The Papal legate was asked how to tell Catholic from 'heretic,' and the response was as above.  But you're right, the sentiment hasn't changed much.

by leftcoaster on Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 04:49:57 PM EDT
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I stand corrected.
Great wealth is simply insufficient fodder on which to nurture humankind at its best.
by Traesom on Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 08:29:35 PM EDT http://aardvarknews.blogspot.com/
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Stranger than fiction...

This man tried to rob a store with a box cutter and demanded a gun for which he planned to use to "rescue" Schiavo. Instead of handing over the gun, the store owner simply pointed it at the suspect and held him until the police arrived.

March 25, 2005

CNN: Man tries to steal gun with box cutter to stage a "hospice rescue"

Screen shot - This man looks as strange as he acts

Video in Real Media format (20 seconds)


(Will, Can we post images on your blog? How? Thanks!)


by dzika (davide (at) telepath (dot) com) on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:28:15 PM EDT http://edwardsdavid.com
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  1. We'd be stealing bandwidth from other sites;

  2. More pics make the threads harder to load for dialup users, which we have a lot of at TO.

Sorry.  I hope you understand.

by WilliamPitt on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:32:00 PM EDT http://blog.pdamerica.org/
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I hope you don't mind that I post links to videos from my own site.

If it's a problem, I'll be happy to refrain. :)

Thanks for everything you do!

by dzika (davide (at) telepath (dot) com) on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 02:09:49 PM EDT http://edwardsdavid.com
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I'm pretty sure the New Testement says many will be decieved by a "false savior" in the last days.  That seems to explain George Bush and his serial killer version of Christianity if you ask me.  He's enlisted the Christians as only an anti-Christ could do.  This Tery Schiavo thing is pay back for the Christians that won him a re-election.  It also is the first time the Pro-Life movement has done anything that wasn't anti-abortion.  Personnally I'm not a Christian.  I used to read the Bible and go to church many years ago.  I loved the Lord at the time and prayed every day.  Eventually, however I came to realize the G0d I had been worshiping was in reality a hate-filled, greedy republican, war-mongering, right-wing, wacko.  G0d and I haven't spoken much since.
Davol White Fantazine
by dajson (dajson@newcity.com) on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:32:20 PM EDT http://www.fantazine.net/dajpage
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Get this one -- I received a phone call last evening from the republican state senate candidate campaign in our district (I'm assuming his campaign was responsible). It was a recorded message of [supposedly] the voice of Mary Schindler who identified herself and then urged me to support the Republican candidate.

Have they no shame?

by jodster on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:33:56 PM EDT

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"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's"
                                                                                            Mark Twain

A SERMON IN SUPPORT OF THE EVOLUTION OF    
                      ETHICS AND VIRTUE
                                                                            Robert R Brownlee

                                DEDICATION
  This sermon is dedicated to reducing if not eliminating the influence of Dobsonian (Creationist) dogma and actionable Neo-conservatism on the welfare of our once United States. Both are rapidly gaining influence in a quest to destroy the wall of the separation of church and state and damage other civil- right safe guards provided by our Constitution. If these allied menaces are allowed to fester and grow it will undermine our brilliantly structured republic.

  "Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppression of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day" (Thomas Jefferson)

EXORDIUM--pedantry for prologue
   A Sermon is my chosen literary format to be a bit facetious, but also allow a rambling unstructured over-lengthy dialogue. A style often used on Pseudo-Christian Cornerstone Evangelical Television to milk money from the uninformed for clothing criminal male ministers in Brooks Bros. apparel and their female co-conspirators in bangles of diamonds. I'm not after your money.
   Let it be known up-front that I am not opposed to intelligent Christianity, a faith that provides solace and admirable service to millions of grieving and downtrodden people throughout the world. There are descending grades of Christianity however that on an x-y plot trends from the y axis of intelligence downward toward the x axis of ignorance---- ignorance structured on the absolute literal belief in Gospel dogma. The loudest and most ignorant or power hungry members of the Fundamentalist pseudo-Christian far right like James Dobson, his cohorts Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and their followers preach that the United States was founded on Christian principles by religious men. Using this propagandist tool they proclaim the right to modify the construct of our Constitution. They sense a new empowerment under the Bush administrations neo-conservative policies --- a time of unfortunate opportunity. These preachings, currently gaining a foothold, are venomous blasphemies that threaten the survival of our Jeffersonian secular Republic.    
    Where-from was the wisdom of the founders derived? Their key sources of inspiration were obtained from the pre-Christian, Greek and Roman models of democracy instituted by Pericles, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and even Caesar. Polybius consolidated many of these great philosopher's concepts regarding government into a structure that is essentially the template our founders used to write our constitution. These Intellectual giants place-in-history preceded Christ's birth by several centuries. The volumes of their preserved writings exemplifying the highest standards of statesmanship, of civic virtue, of character and conviction provided direct contact with our founders through literary education and were the major source of their enlightenment.
   The most sophisticated latter day scholar of the Greek and Roman philosophers was the Frenchman Montesquieu. In 1748 Montesquieu, borrowing rather profusely from Polybius, drafted a masterpiece "The Spirit of the Laws". Essentially all the founders are known to have studied the works of Polybius and Montesquieu. Jefferson was in France serving as secretary of state during the drafting of the Constitution but it is common knowledge that he was shipping home some of these important documents to his colleagues. James Madison is recognized as the lead author of the Constitution. He remained in constant  letter communication with Jefferson during the draft phase of the Constitution. It is no surprise that Jefferson had substantial influence in the process. Madison's and the other founder's knowledge of both Polybius and Montesquieu's brilliance regarding the separation of powers led to our enduring guide for stellar governance. Montesquieu strongly recommended the separation of church and state in his 1748 treatise. Thank who ever your God is that the founders chose to abide by both Jefferson's and Montesquieu's advice regarding this most important issue.          
   There is no documented evidence that the Bible was ever used as major source material for drafting our enlightened Constitution.
   The Dogma of Evangelical right wing charlatans would not fool anyone armed with even a casual education of our founder's self-written diaries, documents, and letters that clearly reflect their views and the absolute necessity to limit religious influence on secular government. The most influential founders were Deists. Some were suspected to be closet athiests. Even those considered to be of the Christian faith understood the need to separate religious and secular law.                  
    Education of the citizenry of this nation is the only peaceful mechanism to stop the menace of religious zealots. An understanding of evolution and rejection of Creationism are essential elements of an enlightened education to guarantee the rights of man and protect the elegance of secular governance.
   The insidious coupling of the Bush administrations neo-conservative dogma with religious dogma is malignantly designed to enhance the power of both camps to gain control of the American electorate. This coalition that has gained strength in the last four years, if not stopped, will end the hopes and dreams of our brave and creative founding fathers to eliminate, for all-time, religious and monarchial oppression of the citizens. This form of coalition was historically rampant in most major civilizations. It remains so in most Islamic societies but has been essentially eliminated in western civilization. Are we going to allow a return to a primitive structure in this great nation? I intend to fight against that outcome, as do many very worried colleagues. I concentrate in this sermon with the goal of diminishment of the influence of Creationist dogma. If that can be accomplished, neo-conservatism will fall on it's own sword

PROLEGOMENON----good pedantic word for lengthy introduction

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."
- Autobiography of Mark Twain

   Intellectual theologians and some serious scientists argue that God had to have created the Universe or, that at least, some form of Intelligent Design had a hand in it, in part, because the ethics and virtue of man could not have developed through natural selection. He, She, or It would also had to have invented greed and evil. My response is balderdash.
   If the Almighty God's intentions were noble or the Intelligent Designer's motives were even a fraction of a fig concerned with mans development and wellbeing, neither would have created a Universe in which man oscillates between good and evil on a balance scale of behavior. A benevolent God would also have prevented devastating plagues and natural disasters that wreak havoc indiscriminately on both good and evil specimens of mankind.    
     The deist case that an indifferent Creator constructed the universe is plausible because of the complexity of mans micro and macro scientific observations. I am agnostic on Deism but an avid believer in evolution. These are not contradictory predilections.
   Darwin's related short-take was:
  "I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living body of caterpillars ".
    This general subject is sprinkled profusely in life science literature and hotly debated in the intellectual circles of both science and theology. My personal belief is that the "survival of the fittest" forces proscribed by Darwin to explain the physical evolution of the species also influenced both the good and the evil elements of the mental development of man. Great minds formulated this stance long before the subject even entered mine.
   The continuing argument between highly educated men about whether evolution is merely an untested theory or factual science seems ludicrous to me in light of mans own demonstrated ability to genetically modify species of both plants and animals with ease and at will. Coupling this knowledge with the continuing and observable accidental mutations in all life forms cements me as a firm believer in factual evolution. The knowledge that evolution had billions of years of mutational experience often with assistance from natural violent disasters to enhance and accelerate adaptive activity, I think, should end the argument. In my mind it does. There does remain the monumental mystery of the origin of the first living cell(s). Biologists are cold on the heels of understanding or replicating the complex structure of even a single cell, but on the heels they are. I am well nigh convinced that at the current exponential pace of discovery man could be manufacturing primordial life before the end of this century. If instead Christ shows up first to describe the scientific methodology to create life before man "shows up Christ" I will be born again. I'm betting on man as the winner. Even if the "reverse engineering of life" is eventually accomplished i.e. copied by man, the reason and origin of life will still remain a mystery. A patent application for reverse engineering the design of the life force would be rejected as having been stolen from the original inventor even though we cannot identify or locate said inventor.      
   The knowledge that the intellectuals in this field argue against one another provide comfort to me that my thin education of the subject allows edgewise word entries into the middle of the argument.    
   As I wrote this sermon I granted myself license to intersperse padantism, euphemisms, humor, fiction, facts, philosophy, politics, repetition, blasphemy, and, sex.        
        I confess to the reader that I am not lettered in the liberal arts or theology, am moderately lettered in the sciences, and have accelerating interests in virtually everything, all fueled and propelled by seemingly accelerated aging.
       The sermon may offend some readers with secular use of scripture that religion has achieved ownership of through incessant Annunciation of primitive beliefs. This sermon occasionally absconds with the "incessant Annunciation" tool for emphasis of anger or zeal.  It works effectively for the religious and political far right so maybe liberals should level the playing field some, --- never borrow their use of fabrication
    If you finish a read of this sermon you might label me as a deist, atheist, agnostic, secular humanist, a-religious, or Darwinist. All fit depending on my mood and on the time of day.  I prefer the label Darwinist. It seems to me that it allows more space in my living room for the pious. I think Richard Dawkins may have first used the title Darwinist in his stunningly brilliant writings in support of the scientific validity of evolution. Perhaps I can honor Dawkins by claiming myself as the first Dawkinist. Seems to be absent a necessary letter s to be correct. As you probably already sense, elements of the concept of Intelligent Design are appealing, others not so.
.    As I opened and implied in the exordium and will repeat again in a lengthy peroration I am not prejudiced against any belief system except those that propose and carry out destructive tenets or attempt incursions on, or place restrictions on my beliefs. Particularly troublesome are growing political/religious incursions. I consider Creationism, for example, to parallel profanity and almost outside my vocabulary although it's disgust-is-discussed in the peroration.
    Creationists are deviously trying to corrupt Intelligent Design (not their baby) by adopting some of its tenets to market their mysticism and press for their prejudiced beliefs to despoil our Constitution. If Creationists are allowed by neo-conservative government to infect the 1st amendment of the Constitution, and, or add ignorant amendments regarding marriage, they will destroy the Grand American Experiment. That annoys me, and was one my political motivations for drafting this blasphemous sermon as I expressed in more detail in the exordium. Yes, this is repetitive dialogue but I warned you.
      I provide no detailed bibliography but I am a namedropper of close friends with several of whom I have frequent one way communications (by reading Dawkins, Jefferson, and Twain, for examples). Names will be dropped here and there and a partial list of literature I borrowed from is supplied without detailing pertinent fragments. I recommend a full volume read of any literature selected from my list.  
     Ideas and facts supported by scientific evidence and reasonable speculation are boldly italicized. "Quotations" are lightly italicized.
   I provide PAUSES and RESUMES here and there that assist in any desire to skip distractions.

"The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas -- uncertainty, progress, and, change -- into crimes".                               Salman Rushdie                                                                                                                    

CREATION--as espoused by science                                
    Solid evidence exists that about 40,000,000 centuries ago the earth was born of the dust of a violent explosion of a star(s). The evidence of earth's parentage derives from the existence of heavy elements in the earth's makeup. Heavy elements and inorganic and organic molecules are created during explosion of primordial stars that pre-explosion consist of only hydrogen and helium, the primary building blocks of all the elements. Amazing! We are all truly made of stardust.  
    Solid archeological evidence also exists that the Homo erectus ancestors of modern Homo sapient man evolved about 10,000 centuries ago, or about 1/4000th the age of the earth. Put another way it took almost 4 billion years for man to evolve from primitive one-celled ancestors to his present Homo sapient condition.
   Creationists in ignorant contrast believe the earth is only about 6000 years old. I try not to use the word balderdash too much. It's difficult.
    I employ a fictional account (YARN) of mans early stone age existence because man only began to seriously scribble about 5000-7000 years ago-- Just yesterday in the grand scheme of things.  The YARN is meant, in part, to represent perhaps thousands of similar speculated happenings throughout the undocumented uncivilized planet that effected the evolutionary development of both good and evil.

YARN----humor for fiction
     A major advancement of human cooperation, the precursor to ethics and virtue, began about one million BC by a chance encounter between two, stone armed, hunting cave-persons from rival tribes. It happened in a border area usually avoided by both tribes because of the potential danger of just such an encounter. Because this border area was sparse of hunters, wild edible morsels like rats, rabbits, roosters and raccoons were abundant.
   To briefly digress from fiction, these kinds of avoidance zones still exist in regions of the planet where rival clans of the same species like wolves, apes, and even tribal humans reside. Interestingly, the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea has developed into a natural game preserve displaying an abundance of wildlife.              
    Any way, the encounter led immediately to hostilities in which both cave-persons heaved their remaining large stones at the other. Both missed their targets. Each missal instead slew edible morsels. In their shared astonishment of good fortune, born accidentally from violence, they took up the first but difficult grunting discourse about what benefit might ensue if they joined forces in an effort to stone morsels. Perhaps they could achieve bagging a morsel of a size greater than the mass of the combined morsel mass of the two morsels bagged in the accident. Complicated sentence but I enjoyed drafting it.
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    Perhaps survival of the un-fittest, wherein, when a balanced lack of talent is obvious to competitors, a Darwinian driving force is induced for stimulating cooperation. Sorry for the interruption but I'm not done yet with this interlude because of a sorrowful distraction.              
    The heart wrenching devastation of the people living along the land boundaries of the Indian Ocean from the recent tsunami severely disturbed my concentration. It was a massive natural catastrophe described by some commentators as Biblical. Upon slowly regaining composure this description began to annoy me as it implies that perhaps God had a hand in it's cause. Never the less my verve for continuing the silly parts of this sermon remained stilted un-till I heard a Christian (I think) commentator proclaim that God's intervention restricted the number of Christian deaths in this human catastrophe. As of this writing, the death toll could not even be comprehended.  How stupid do some ignorant branches of the Christian tree think we are? This arrogant Dobson-like Annunciation stiffened my spine to proceed with my journey, though; tears still occasionally blurred both mental and physical vision.
  A speculative notion of a possible positive evolutionary force resulting from this human catastrophe helped me emotionally so I first charge that the devastating tsunami was not Biblical but was instead evolutional. Prior to the disaster the 12 major nations that suffered severe casualties and destruction were not considered to be cooperative. Intra-tribal conflict in some of these nations was occurring when nature's devastation struck the region. Several branches of competing religions co-habitate the several thousand mile rim of the ocean. I sincerely believe that the commonality of the devastation of all these nations and religions will awaken many from the stupor of ignorance that "some God" caused it- Whose? The evolutionary shock of observing equality of their weakness in the wake of natural disasters will give rise to both temporary and long-term cooperation, surely a form of Darwinian evolution. I can assure the reader this disaster did not generate in me any belief in a concerned God.    
 RESUME    
  To continue my yarn, a mutual suspicion of skullduggery fogged the trust of both cave-persons as neither party knew the full measure of the others armamentarium. Extra stones were commonly carried hidden in the loin area of the torso. Apparel now known as loincloths were usually crafted in only sizes X L and X XL to support both ammo and anatomical appendages. For convenience we name these two cave-characters Hunt and Gath. Hunt and Gath did not yet know the others gender at this point, though Gath's oversized breast area was revealing and distracting.  Gath suggested that each do a weapons search of the others loin region before continuing their conference on cooperation. But who goes first? Gath's take was that if each had an equal number of both fingers and toes then Hunt would get to do the first search. They had no coins to toss.
   Finding that, in this small sample, each other's tribe possessed this commonality of phalange count was reassuring so Hunt began his "get in Gaths loincloth" activity. Something ventured, nothing found except a peaceful patch that Hunt recognized as the portal for sowing his gene seeds among his own tribal members. One could, I suppose, describe Gath's loin anatomy as a passive weapon of mass reduction following a gene seed planting activity.
   As another aside, several millennia later in the evolution of hominoids this same anatomy was employed as a weapon of mass seduction. A probable Darwinian weapon useful in the ongoing survival of the fittest war toward achieving the virtue of gender equality.
    Continuing our historical fictional story, Hunt had never previously laid a hand on said anatomy despite previous successful seed sowing duties. Hunt experienced a little disturbance in the loin area before ending his search and before the physical provocation of Gath's intrusion into Hunt's size XXL loincloth.  Lo and behold, Gath's search immediately discovered both stones and stick, all initially too soft to be of threat and all had a connected-ness about them. With continued searching however the stick began to grow. Gath realized that about half of her (gender now recognized by both) tribal members also had similar members to that found in the loin of Hunt even though she had never had a hand on any. This fact was again reassuring when coupled with the knowledge of the equality of the earlier phalange count. The tribes were obviously a lot alike and perhaps had enough in common to end needless hostilities.  (FADEOUT).
   After Gath and Hunts seminal experience a quiet contemplative mood prevailed as neither had here-to-fore-experienced foreplay or the moods induced therefrom.  It had been very touching encounter and proved to be a significant notch in the evolution and improvement of sexual ethics, a sharp contrast to the previously prevailing ruthless rape practice of sowing gene seeds.      
    The final astonishing finding that they both had the same middle name Gene cemented their desire to meet again and led to several more clandestine encounters. These encounters were enjoyable and useful to practice touching techniques but most importantly to thoroughly learn each other's gestures and language. These language classes were necessary because they had decided to jointly report to their respective tribes the newfound advantages of mood improvement via cooperative sexual activities. Of equal importance was the spreading of the concept of a societal advantage of improving the efficacy and efficiency of stoning exponentially larger prey by simply doubling the size of the hunting brigade?
    To abbreviate this fiction by leaving out the details of Hunt and Gath's seminars, the elders of both tribes approved of these new ways of thinking following a rather extensive practice of round robin loin stone searching within their respective tribes. This was a necessary precaution, as the elders wanted the same assurances against ambush as had Gath and Hunt in their initial encounter.
     Comprehensive preparations for piece (slang), and peace or battle and any unexpected unpleasant aftermath seem to have been forgotten in just the last four years.
    Fortunately, all went well in both the intra and inter tribal round robin encounters.  Unexpected benefits, regarding both ethics and virtue, were discovered about the natural prevalence of homosexuality.
     The legitimacy of which has become violently contentious in today's politico-religious (ignorant mess) complex. Yeah I'm a liberal. I know, you knew.
    During the intra and inter tribal round robin controlled trials it was found in both genders that at least 5 to10 percent of the total population was observed to dramatically prefer same-sex loin searching.
PAUSE    
   Recent documented scientific observation of several species of animals including the animal man has demonstrated this proclivity. Other recent physiological findings drive me to an understanding that homosexuality is a genetic trait substantially similar to a like distribution of exceptional talent found in art, music, mathematics, etc. etc. that fall on the shallow slide toward the asymptotes of the human bell curve. The summit of the bell curve centers on mediocrity. Without statistical passport I think I have personally observed a prevalence i.e. a higher percentage of homosexuality in the gifted than in the mediocre middle of mankind.

(BREAKING NEWS--NEW RESEARCH ON ABE LINCOLN'S LIFE CLAIMS EVIDENCE OF HOMOSEXUALITY) How the hell are the fundamentalists going to handle this allegation? Lincoln was-is considered to be more than exceptional.
   If we can appreciate exceptional heterosexual artists, scientists, and national leaders we can also, without fear, accept harmless gay artists, teachers, politicians, and clergy. I am neither a musician nor gay, thank you.
   I cannot restrain from asking, what really is it anybody's business whether or not homosexuality derives from nature or nurture? Human beings participating comfortably and unforced in their sexual preferences should not only be left to their own desires but should also be legally protected under the same bonding laws that protect the rights of married heterosexuals. Creationists and Bush, stay out of messing with the Constitution.
   This may be the wrong place to further discuss sexual behavior but it is now on my mind. Bear with me. There are certainly sexual deviancies committed, in part, because the sex drive exceeds all hungers except for lack of food and water beyond about 3days. These deviancies are in part caused by extended deprivation of sexual release during forced incarceration and supposedly voluntary celibacy. Isn't that a strange linkage of imprisoning with barbed wire for crime, and imprisoning with celibacy for Christianity?
   Bluntly speaking, all religions would be well served to eliminate celibacy, allow homosexual ministers, and permit women full equality with men at the podium. I suppose none of this is any of my business as an a-religious person but I am allowed opinion.
    Some More---Deviancy somewhat related to the above is a bit more heartbreaking in that all people are not created equal in their ability to attract partners for release of natural sex energy. To be polite lets just say that some lack beauty, or flirting skills, or intellect necessary to gain employment and related economic attractiveness. I certainly do not condone these deviancies. For the benefit of mankind though it seems that mechanics should at least be studied to help alleviate if not eliminate deviant behavior.
   Legalized prostitution is hotly debated as a mechanism to reduce criminal deviancy. It is legal and medically regulated in some countries and in some states in the US. Mixed results are reported with some countries reporting dire secondary consequences and others beneficial results, like reduction of sexually transmitted disease. The success or lack of it may be culturally related. It's a subject requiring serious study. . I do however declare and accept as non-deviant the natural state of consensual homosexuality. I remain agnostic on legalization of prostitution.    
 RESUME  
    The first full heavily stoned loin brigade including both genders of both tribes launched a hunt for big game. More good fortune was bestowed upon this expanded community. They came upon an extremely large and previously unforeseen creature in the now safe "no go zone" that Hunt and Gath had earlier violated. One tribal elder shouted HUGE! But one of the other tribe's elders not to be outdone shouted MAMMOTH! and that's how this very large creature first got its' name. Anyway the brigade surrounded the newly named mammoth. All aimed for the head and slew the mammoth to essentially a 2 dimensional mass (at least compared to its 3 dimensional standing stature) in "no time flat". The success of the largest assembly of arm and stone power ever witnessed in these parts proved the practicality of cooperation as presented in the seminars of Hunt and Gath.
   Many other benefits of this efficacious method of protein collection became obvious following a three-day celebratory feast (with left-overs) of leg-of-mammoth after two full days of open pit roasting. Examples are more free time for resting, more time for leisure loin searching and R rated activities, more time for stone sharpening, and more time for gathering scarce carbs. The most important aspect of the resulting division of duties led to greater skill levels and productivity increases through increased practice. Hunt was assigned as a full time hunter and Gath was assigned as a full time gatherer.
    Thenceforth the common usage of the distinction- hunter and gatherer.
    During the first several generations of the Huntgath expanded civilization the productivity increases and resulting prosperity wrought by this evolution of cooperation and the advances in the pursuit of happiness were heartwarming.  Permanent and positive influences were either genetically programmed or mentality ingrained in most tribal members and their progeny.
   I personally don't think there is much effectual difference between genetically programmed and mentally ingrained attributes.  
    But then a turn around occurred. Humankind's proclivity for greed and evil that seemed to lie dormant during these progressive generations ironically re-grew rapidly from fertilization by the same prosperity that had also fertilized happiness. A few devious elders with more leisure time on their hands since abandoning loin searching out of lack of interest (in them by others) began to harvest ideas from muddled thoughts regarding feathering their own loin clothes. No doubt only from feathers harvested from the right wings of fowl. That extra loin space now available from shrinking assets and limited energy for effective stone throwing first led to depression but transfigured almost immediately to a right wing concept. The vaccination against the evil greed gene by prosperity lost its effectiveness.
    Briefly, the elders speculated that by reducing the leisure time of all tribe members, except their own, would result in productivity increases beyond the needs of the tribe and could be used to barter surplus animal protein for broccoli. A weaker, protein deficient tribe, a few kilometers away on plant productive riverfront property, harvested bountiful wild broccoli but found little game. The riverfront tribe seemed under developed, an easy target for exploitation. As self designated middlemen, the elder's opportunity for skimming benefits from both tribes through nefarious barter transactions seemed fairly certain. Beads and other colored agates had been invented as currency needed to balance barter transactions and useful for the nefarious to gain storable i.e. un-spoilable wealth.        
    The most devious elder was selected to propose to the tribe that this advancement in trade provided a diet benefit although he personally had a great distaste for broccoli.  One of his sons helped promote the broccoli initiative as he said he was fond of said vegetable (probably just to annoy his daddy and in his own elder years the son explored even more menacing exploitation schemes, again to annoy and out-do his daddy). This broccoli barter scheme was the first seed of globalization and the resulting loss of leisure time of the tribes-people led to depression, reduced productivity, poverty, and less happiness and time for the pursuit thereof.

INTERCESSION----not really pedantic
        This intercession is on my own behalf.  It is to take a break, gather my thoughts, and set my bearings to hopefully help roll smoothly into my peroration (Biblical based). I hope to not lose the respect of truly good-hearted Christen friends and family members--probably too late if they have already read any of the previous babble. Let me openly mull over a few thoughts before entering the next cave of controversy. Bear with me.    
    Archeological evidence documents the rise and demise of multitudes of civilizations in the 7000-century interlude between the fictional Bartgath commune and the rise of great city-states that began to record their own trials and tribulations. Climate changes like severe drought, the ice age, and other natural disasters, and mans own propensity to violently oscillate between good and evil traits all contributed to cycles of prosperity and poverty.
    The Old Testament of the Bible has been assessed by scholars of theology to have had its' earliest chapters written about 7 centuries before the birth of Christ. The veracity of large sections of the dogma and histories presented in the Old Testament are not accepted as legitimate even by many of the metastasized branches of the Christian tree. Many do selectively pick and choose from the Old Testament, as they see fit, to help proselytize their particular brand of dogma. Some scholars sarcastically describe the Biblical authors as uneducated bronze-age goat herders (source, Wade Reeser).                          
    Similarly, some chapters of the New Testament are fraught with inter and intra-chapter contradictions and labeled by some scholars as illegitimate representations of the word of God or his "Son".  The early researched chapters of the New Testament were written 60 to 70 years after Christ's Crucifixion by unknown authors, authors that Thomas Jefferson speculated to be unlettered (as he put it). Jefferson did not believe in the divinity of Christ but admired his principles and in fact personally wrote (in four languages) his own version of the New Testament to cull out Christ's valuable messages. Other of America's founders expressed sentiments that paralleled Jefferson's.  The well-established knowledge of our founders' understandings of history, science, and religion are vital to protect the gifts they awarded the world at great risk to their own lives. I said it before and intend to repeat it many times, our Nation was not founded on Christian principles. The founders did certainly acknowledge Christ's benevolence but not his divinity.                    
    Most importantly the founders Constitutionalized the free establishment of all forms of religions with none allowed, to ever gain control of established secular government.

 " So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel: Ye shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is.  Not merely tolerant of it, but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code".
                                                                                             Mark Twain
PERORATION---long-winded
 There's no reason to bring religion into it. I think we ought to have as great a regard for religion as we can, so as to keep it out of as many things as possible.
                                                                                       Sean O'Casey

   Be duly warned this peroration will offend anyone that believes Christ is divine or the Bible literally true. I adamantly state and firmly believe though that religion is a very positive force and, in prayer and in practice, assists millions in coping with life's tragedies. I also believe that Jesus' teachings proffer significant ethical guidance to diminish the evil acts of mankind.
    These benefits are however, operable only in admirable but limited segments of the mass of Christianity. I thoroughly admire the likes of William Sloan Coffin and Martin Luther King as supreme examples of great and good Intelligent Christians. In the evil segments of Pseudo-Christianity, gross atrocities have been committed in the name of God that include but are not limited to the bloody 300 year long Crusades and much more recently, Southern Baptist (Gospel justified) lynching of black slaves and citizens. Now we have to contend with the ignorant fundamentalist right wing Creationists and their Constitutionally illegal neo-conservative government supported activities to undermine the foundations of the Republic.
SEGUE
    It is my view that Christ's teachings are no more profound than that of the great philosophers that preceded him by a few centuries and even others that coincided with his life. It is easy to speculate that Christ had access to the literature of predecessors and contemporaries housed in sophisticated libraries in Rome and Athens that were available resources during his lifetime. This access could have been direct through Christ's personal travels to these institutions or taught to him by Jewish mentors that did travel or had some form of access to the documented wisdom's of learned men.  A major segment of Christ's life is not documented in the New Testament. Was he out and about in the undocumented years between his youth and his latter- life short ministry? Was he an understudy of men of virtue and wisdom?      
    Christ personally failed to document anything and assigned no scribes or apostles for timely accurate documentation of his reign We therefore have little proof of his divinity beyond fable-literature drafted by unlettered, unknown authors who never personally interviewed him and had to rely on hearsay. This was a severe shortcoming of Christ the fallible human and not the fault of the Bibles authors. Furthermore his neglect to self document his tenets in combination with use of parable instead of straight talk has caused centuries of unnecessary confusion and the spawning of several malignant versions of pseudo-Christianity. Millions of humans have been slain in the name of Christ but not for Christ's sake. Evolution without pseudo-Christian interference would, most likely, have provided a better outcome for humankind than observed in the present state of affairs.
    To be sarcastically polite, if there had been greater clarity of Christ's moral teachings by on the scene respected reporters, pseudo-Christianity may not have flourished.                                
   What I find most astonishing about mans dependence on the Bible is that millions study just two modest size volumes for a lifetime and yet still must  "not get it". Jeez, isn't it astounding that one can elevate him-her self to a doctorate level in 6 to10 years by seriously studying and understanding perhaps 100 volumes of extremely complex art and or science literature. Did God intentionally make his written word far more complex than quantum mechanics, for example, to force obedience, cause mental anguish, or what? I cannot fathom such an ignorant God and feel that if there is a Creator, He-She or It is kindly indifferent to the gibberish of the Gospels.
   Another facet of the gazillions of hours uselessly spent trying to fathom the discontinuities of the Gospels is that these wasted hours could have been employed in multitudes of other productive endeavors to dramatically enhance the well being of man. Adding to that waste are the thousands of volumes of argument literature concerning science and religion. All this spent philosophical waste amazes me, and here I am trapped in it because of a fear of ignorance and greed gaining control of our lives. I beg the electorate to shut down the likes of faith-based initiatives, school prayer and neo-conservative world dominating ideology.  
   How about miracles: -Well, Jesus is credited with many in New Testament scripture but again by hearsay account. If Christ had chosen to espouse just a few scientific facts that his all-knowing Father, as the Creator of the universe, could have easily informed him about and that in the ensuing centuries have been proven to be true, atheists would be scarce. If, for example, Christ had described the solar planetary arrangement he would have gained unquestioned respect and garnered intelligent converts when Galileo proved Christ's (hypothetical) postulate, not to elaborate the agony suffered by Galileo by unmerciful Roman Catholicism. There are many real miracles that man has revealed through use of the scientific method (imaginative speculation followed by experimental verification) that God could have revealed through Christ. Need more be said? Well maybe, wouldn't it be nice to have a book of Christ's scientific postulates?
  How about prayer:-It may astound the reader to find that I believe in the power of prayer. This belief though does not expand to belief that a great and good God is listening. There is a listener of much greater significance-- the person doing the praying. Prayer in my view is essentially the same as secular meditation, a technique to contemplate ones status and gain solace and solutions to the tribulations generously dealt mankind.
   Jon-Cabot-Zinn is a brilliant pioneer in what he calls mind control. His mind control techniques, for getting hold of your self through meditation, provide methods for shutting down thought processes that do not solve problems but instead create damaging mental anguish. This shutdown allows energy for mental musings that help develop coping skills when immersed in seemingly drowning seas of anguish. These seas often dry up on there own with time any way so mind control softens needless anguish during the waiting period. I believe that religious prayer unlocks similar energies and that by defining your troubles to a God provides you a similarly useful channel to your own mind to soften anguish.
    How about Cathedrals and Religious art and music;-I have to admit when entering magnificent Cathedrals, or viewing religious art of the masters in museums, or listening to religious symphony, a spine chilling awe seems to elicit a presence of God. I also experience a similar awe viewing massive non-religious structures like great dams designed by man to control great natural rivers. The same awe and spine chills were felt when looking skyward while standing between the now fallen towers of the World Trade Center. The WTC was never considered to be great architecture but to an engineer the awe stemmed from a great respect for the designers and builders.    
   Likewise giant forest trees are equally inspiring. I'm not totally certain but from a terse Google search think the fossil record of plant evolution is pretty solid and were all made of the same stuff.
   The magnificent religious art of the likes of Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo (both thought to be homosexual) create shivers similar to great structures, as do other great works of art including modern theatre and stellar motion pictures that have nothing to do with religion. Ever cry in a movie?
    Great religious music is likewise stirring, but no more so than Cole Porter's poetic and romantic lyrics set to brilliant rhythms. (Porter was gay by the way).
  My point is simply that the chills caused by architecture, art, and music, whether religious or secular oriented come from the brilliance of man.
    I think another lengthy sermon could be drafted on the accelerated spread of Christianity through art induced sense of awe misunderstood by the religious as inspired works of God. I'm certain that Religious Institutions, wealthy men, and monarchies commissioned some of it for proselytizing Christianity and or for enhancing bragging rights. In Mark Twain's travels he was appalled by the squalor outside the walls of these obscenely rich Cathedrals, though I am sure, chills ran up and down his spine (Jerome Kern and Ira Gershwin) when viewing these colossal works of man.

I think it's time to end this sermon (for now anyway) because I am constantly reading new literature and forming hopefully sounder opinion on the myriad of issues presented.

                                     SUMMATION

  1. Neo-conservatism = (Bush + Cheney + Wolfowitz + Rumsfeld +++)

  2. Neo-conservatism = Arrogance = Greed = Imperial Hubris

  3. Creationism = Ignorance = Greed( Dobson + Falwell +Robertson+++)

  4. Creationism + Neo-conservatism = Oppression = Increased Economic                            
                                                                                        Inequality

5. Faith based initiatives = Mind Control = Biased Indoctrination                        
                                           = Destruction of Separation of      
                                              Church and State

6. School Prayer = Biased Indoctrination = Destruction of Separation of      
                                                                          Church and State

  Creationism is without any doubt a fallacious frozen mysticism whereas evolution is a continually developing solid young science and equal in investigative diligence to the older sciences of physics, mathematics, and astronomy, all still experiencing dramatic improvements with the evolution of man's intelligence.

                          BIBLIOGRAPHY

  1. A Devil's Chaplain: Richard Dawkins
  2. Jefferson Biography-6 Volumes: Dumas Malone
  3. The Damned Human Race: Mark Twain
  4. Stardust: John Gribbin
  5. The Origins of Virtue: Matt Ridley
6.Mark Twain an Illustrated Biography: Geoffrey Ward,                
   Dayton Duncan, and Ken Burns    
7.Rare Earth: Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee (no relation)
  1. Credo: William Sloan Coffin
  2. The Innocents Abroad: Mark Twain
  3. A Pen Warmed Up In Hell: Mark Twain
  4. Letters From The Earth: Mark Twain
  5. The Elegant Universe, Brian Green
  6. Benjamin Franklin-An American Life: Walter Isaacson
  7. The Jefferson Bible: Thomas Jefferson
  8. Leonardo da Vinci-Biography: Antonina Vallentin
  9. Wherever You Go There You Are- Mindfulness Meditation    
       In Every Day Life: Jon Kabat Zinn
  1. Imperial Hubris: Noam Chomsky
  2. Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Daniel C. Dennett
  3. Civilisation-Video Tape-Thirteen Part Series: Lord    
      Kenneth Clark
20. Polybius and the Founding Fathers: the separation of powers:  
      Marshall Davies Lloyd
  1. Bible Old and New Testaments
  2. About 40 web searches on essentially all topics discussed in        
      the Sermon, a great tool for finding concise information      
      About, for example, the ancient philosophers, Their lives,
      Their Libraries, and Their Wisdom.
23. Numerous Television Documentaries  

"All who have meditated on the art of governing mankind have been convinced that the fate of empires depends on the education of youth". Aristotle BC 384-322, Greek Philosopher

                                (SOUNDS A BIT LIKE JEFFERSON)

Robert Benchley Brownlee
by clockmaker on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:36:25 PM EDT

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Good sermon.  An interesting fact, the Islamic world at least from the beginning of the 11th century ensured that the Greek and Roman texts were preserved.  Perhaps we would not have had our Jeffersonian democracy without the help of the Muslim world.  Some else George can bitch about the Muslims.

by whathappenedtoamerica on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 04:40:20 PM EDT
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They have control of the military to the point that torture is commonplace---and condoned.  They or their proxies have control of the oil.  They have control of energy policy and environmental policy, so the land of this country can be raped and destroyed, while energy prices soar. Their minions have control of large amounts of the corporate wealth in this country.  They have control over the courts such that there will never be another landmark decision like Roe v. Wade or Brown v. Board of Education.  They have control over the eyes who spy on our internet use and our library cards.  They have control over the "public morality" of this country such that gay people will never have the rights they deserve.  They have control over the national purse such that education and healthcare will never be adequately funded.  Now they have control of the legislature to the extent that they can make laws allowing the federal courts to overrule the state courts and interfere in private choices about life and death. They almost have enough control to forever stifle the last bastion of the opposition, the filibuster.  How much control do they have to seize before the lemmings of the country wake up and see the edge of the cliff approaching?
Denise D
by Denise D on Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 12:48:50 PM EDT
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From The Tuscaloosa News Editorial Page

"A sordid chapter for state Legislature
 March 24, 2005

 The bashing of homosexuals that continues unabated among some lawmakers is rapidly becoming one of the most shameful chapters in the checkered history of the Alabama Legislature.

 The lawmakers began this session by passing a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages in Alabama. It was an exercise in pure overkill -- such marriages already are forbidden by state statute -- but it gave some of the legislators a soapbox to spout their self-serving views on values and morality.

 Waiting in the wings is Rep. Gerald Allen's bill to prevent public libraries and other public entities from owning, purchasing or making accessible any materials regarding homosexuality or gay culture. It says that no public funds may be used by public libraries (or schools, colleges, universities) to purchase or promote printed or electronic materials that "recognize, foster, or promote a [homosexual] lifestyle."

 Now Sen. Hank Erwin Jr., R-Montevallo, has jumped into the homophobic hammering with a bill making it illegal for gays to adopt children.

 The ignorance and bigotry of this legislation is breathtaking. There is no credible evidence to suggest that homosexuals are unfit to be parents. To the contrary, researchers are unequivocal in concluding that the children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as successfully as the children of heterosexual parents. Sexual orientation simply is not a factor in good parenting.

 Erwin justifies his bill by saying it is consistent