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Impeachment: Why and How

By David Swanson

Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 01:52:18 PM EDT :: Bush

WHY

Many previous presidents and vice presidents have committed one or two of the following crimes. Never before have any approached this total level of assault on the Constitution. If we do not impeach now, we never can again, and the legislative branch will not maintain power over the executive or judicial. We will be unable to end the war, stop global warming, fund education, challenge stolen elections, win elections, or accomplish any of our other goals.

Impeachable Offenses by Bush and Cheney:

Illegal spying in violation of FISA and the Fourth Amendment, openly confessed to, openly promoted in signing statements, known to involve phone calls, phone records, internet use, bank records, and observation of legal nonviolent activities.

Illegal detentions in violation of the Fourth Amendment, international law, US law, and a recent Supreme Court ruling.


Rounding up of thousands of citizens and legal residents for detention or deportation.

Torture, maintenance of secret camps, and extraordinary rendition, in violation of the Fourth Amendment, international law, US law, and openly promoted in signing statement and administration policy papers.

Illegal war - launched illegally under international law, launched in violation of the US Constitution, which requires that the Congress declare war, and launched on the basis of feloniously misleading Congress and the American public.

Use of a variety of illegal weapons.

Illegal targeting of civilians, journalists, and hospitals.

Illegal seizure of another nation's resources.

Illegal use of funds in Iraq that had been appropriated for Afghanistan.

Leaking of classified information in order to mislead the Congress and the public, and in order to punish truth tellers.

Leaking of the identity of an undercover agent.

Retribution against whistleblowers.

Use of signing statements to reverse 750 laws passed by Congress.

Production of phony news reports at home and abroad.

Dereliction of duty in neglecting global warming, hurricanes, hunger, AIDS, and warnings of 9-11 attacks.

Facilitating Israel's attacks on Lebanon.

Obstruction of investigations by 9-11 Commission and Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald.

Stealing elections.

HOW

Read, print, copy, distribute, post on bulletin boards, hand out on sidewalks, these flyers. Realize that you are in a majority, and act like it.

Wear this T-shirt every single day. Buy it in various colors. Buy some for gifts. Buy some to resell at a profit. You will make a lot of friends and receive a ton of compliments. Talk to people who compliment you on your shirt. Give them a flyer. Tell them about all the following things that they can do.

Get impeachment bumper stickers and yard signs too.

Meet with people in your local area to work on the following: Collect signatures on a petition, and urge your town, city, or county to pass a pro-impeachment resolution and/or to put impeachment on the ballot this November. You'll be helping them boost voter turnout, and while putting something on the ballot costs a city money, so does leaving Bush president.

Urge your Congress Member to sign H. Res. 635. Even the most hopeless Republican members needs to know what you want of them. Many of them are already refusing to appear at events with Bush or Cheney.

If you live in California, Vermont, or Illinois, lobby your state government to pass the impeachment resolution that has been introduced already, and which will initiate impeachment proceedings in the US House. There is nothing more important than this. If you do not live in one of these states, please help those who do.

Thank Congressman John Conyers for what he is doing:

Urge Nancy Pelosi to back off in her opposition to impeachment, which is based on utterly baseless Republican claims that impeachment is good for Republicans. These polls suggest otherwise.

Thank Republican Congressman Ron Paul for speaking out for impeachment, and urge him to do something about it: sign onto Congressman Conyers's bill or introduce your own articles of impeachment:

Contact your friends in other districts, cities, and states, and urge them to act. Help them.

Give every dollar you can spare to a PAC funding pro-impeachment Congressional candidates.

Sign up at After Downing Street to stay informed.

Get books and DVDs and hold events. Then submit reports on those events, including photos and videos, to After Downing Street, to inspire others.

Here's a good book and DVD.

Another good book.

Watch for forthcoming books by Liz Holtzman, by John Nichols, Howard Zinn and others.

Write letters to the editor urging impeachment in your own words, and phone radio shows, following revelation of each new piece of evidence of impeachable offenses. There's one every day.

Ask your local radio stations to air these public service announcements.

Employ the Bush Chain Gang.

Freeway Blog.

Do what they do in civilized nations. Take over your nation's capital. Come to the impeachment encampment at Camp Democracy.

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of signing statements to your impeachment arsenal.

http://www.abanet.org/op/signingstatements/aba_final_signing_statements_recommendation-report_7-24-0 6.pdf
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
by emah1 on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 02:14:17 PM EDT

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I don't understand what is going on.  Bush is a murderer and the Congress has just stood by and watched him murder hundreds of thousands.  

We have to go back to the old days and march.  We need to set up a march to Washington.  Hundreds and thousands with impeachment signs.
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by ButterflyII on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 02:27:50 PM EDT

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it's for a visit, en masse, to the reflecting pool. We must bring down these Walls of Jericho.
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
by emah1 on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 02:35:16 PM EDT
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My horn is yours to help bring the walls down. If there is no action to stop this regime of terror inflicted on the country we will sink deeper in the quagmire created by Bush, Cheney, AIPAC, and Corporate special interests who seek to control our thoughts, and speech through vile supression.
Act now America, take back what is yours and rise up for your Country and protect the Constitution and Bill of Rights from those who will once again enslave you. Your time is now, you must act!!!

by Angelgabriel on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 04:22:39 PM EDT
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all the etheric forces as this is also spiritual warefare.  It's time to put on the whole armour granted to us in what's left of our Constitution and as well as pray.
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
by emah1 on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 07:27:24 PM EDT
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I agree with what you're doing, seen you speak and respect you tremendously for all you've done but any significant movement in the House has to start with the Dems because the Repubs are all in  fascist lockstep, however the Dems who have co-sponsored the resolutions only 36/17/16 just don't seem to be able to (1) recognize illegality and immorality or (2) be counted on to take action when they do see them.

The latest evidence of this:
Washington - US congressional Democrats voiced alarm on Tuesday about Iraq's denunciation of Israel in the Mideast conflict, and some said Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's upcoming address to Congress should be cancelled unless he apologises. A group of House of Representatives Democrats was circulating a letter to House Speaker Dennis Hastert urging the Illinois Republican to secure an apology from Maliki or cancel the address on Wednesday to a joint meeting of Congress.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?sf=2813&click_id=2813&art_id=qw1153841400948B262&set_id=6

This is insane (The Dems I mean).

Somebody help me out with this, if you see any sensible coarse. I am so mad now that I can't think rationally (if I ever could).
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 02:52:54 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/

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Is there any distinguishable difference between parties in Washington today
(Reference- your (Don's) submission of Dem's demanding an apology from Maliki's condemnation of Israeli extreme force)?

Have Democrats been beaten about the head so much that they have forgotten the principals upon which the party was founded
(Rovian personal attack on patriotism politic's).?

Are Democrats so willing to compromise party principals and support the degree of corruption that exists in our government that they will forsake their entire base and allow an authoritarian regime to completely take over our country, rewriting the Constitution and Bill of Rights
(Patriot Act, Bush sponsored NSA spying and data mining on dissidents)?

Is what we are witnessing the end of partisan politics in America? Do we now move to a unitarian political system that serves a "user pay" constiuency?
(Reference - Corporate and special interest lobbies that line pockets in exchange for favoritism in legislation)

Will American's allow the official U.S. policy toward the violence directed against Lebanon and Palestine by Israel to reflect the Bush and Israeli "War on Terrorism" rhetoric as well as delaying any possibility of an immediate deployment of peace keeping forces, rather than take a stand for human rights and call a complete cease fire now in order to save innocent lives?
(Reference - Rice's middle east trip.)

What a sad joke this all is, who would have thought that America would stoop to accepting such a pathetic low!


by Angelgabriel on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 05:04:59 PM EDT
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"What a sad joke this all is, who would have thought that America would stoop to accepting such a pathetic low!"

I never thought that America's people would stoop so low and act so pathetically...but I can't deny what is happening right before our very eyes.  Can't you do something?  you are an angel!!!
"For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead." Thomas Jefferson
by lizbitchwitch (saylinbackagin@yahoo.com) on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 06:28:20 PM EDT
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I would smite the Israelites Military leaders and Government a fatal blow after laying low the entire collaboration of supporters of such actions as we see before us.

There are no offers of good intent nor any offer of fairness through equal negotiations toward peace in this entire sad state of affairs with the exception of the voices of the common people's of the world in solidarity.

Mr. Bush, IF you are the Christian you claim to be you WILL make every attempt to immediately bring this madness to a halt and without personal agenda help in the resolution of peace and the cessation of violence in this torn region of the world.
Afterward you will resign your position as President of the United States as you have disgraced us all for the last time! You are a despicable coward!


by Angelgabriel on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 09:30:54 PM EDT
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not the Israelites....Israelis, 2 different people.
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
by emah1 on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 09:35:06 PM EDT
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I got all carried away when I put my angel costume on to answer Liz's note and my finger slipped when I was typing Isralei!

by Angelgabriel on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 02:21:32 PM EDT
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we've suffered enough from mistaken identity.  How about summoning Angel Michael and let's get this thing on.
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
by emah1 on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 03:44:14 PM EDT
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involved in this Emah, he doesn't know when to quit and everyone would get hurt. He's a self guided lean mean destruction machine who shoots lightning bolts first and there's nobody left to ask any questions later!
God keeps him in a big red case with a glass front that says " Break only in the event of the second coming, or end of days".
Nice enough guy, but a wicked left hook!

by Angelgabriel on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 08:56:22 PM EDT
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get on you job and get some controls over this devil that's been loosed in the land or else we'll have to break the glass on Mikiel's case.
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
by emah1 on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 11:17:38 AM EDT
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   "You are a despicable coward!"  Why else would you be so nice to him?  hehehe!
"For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead." Thomas Jefferson
by lizbitchwitch (saylinbackagin@yahoo.com) on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 12:34:47 AM EDT
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Bush, it makes me want to spit! So I choose descriptive adjectives that ususally describe how I feel  visa-vie "de(spic(t)able.
the "Coward" part is just suffice to say!
Cheers Liz,

by Angelgabriel on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 03:06:50 PM EDT
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by Z man on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 03:00:44 AM EDT
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Unfortunately we are in a position where the Democrats(with a few exceptions) are republican lites. They seek to back the administration's push for unilateral control of the country.

They by no means represent the Majority of the American People, because we are unable to line their pockets with enough money.

I live in New York where Senator Hillary Clinton has done everything except state that she is a Republican(she supports the war in Iraq, she was very much against the move to Censure the President) personally she isn't a whole lot better than Senator Lieberman.

by bluelou2005 (bluelou2004@yahoo.com) on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 02:47:11 PM EDT
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These people are going to kill us!!!  And where will they be when the war starts?  Safely in a bunker all tucked away.  Have you noticed none of their children are in Iraq or the military.  However, if they are in the military I guarantee they are not in Iraq.

There should be a rule.  At least one child, or grandchild, from every senator that sits in congress should be in the military and be shipped out with the rest of all regular military personnel.  There should be no exception to the rule.  Also, they must serve 2 and 3 tours like any other military personnel.  If they get wounded they should also have a hard time getting their veteran benefits just like our regular military.  In addition, if the draft comes back another of their children or grandchildren should be the first to go.

Think this is harsh?  How many wars do you think we would be fighting if this were the rule of thumb?  Some people have no problems with killing other peoples children.
ButterflyII
by ButterflyII on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 08:16:44 AM EDT
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Yes, I'm sure we'd have way fewer wars.  However, no child (even adult children) should be "punished" because their parent decided to run for office.  Those children are individuals and may or may not be anything like their parents.  I wouldn't want to serve in the military just because my parent got elected to congress.  And I also wouldn't want to be "judged" for the crimes of my parents.
"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 03:55:02 PM EDT
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I do understand where you are coming from but then why should other peoples children be punished by there lack of action?  Should all the other soliders be punished due to their lies?  There is no fairness here.  Is there such a thing as priveledge that should prevent others from serving and being in the front lines when there parents are making other children go????
I think not.  Imagine how much peace there would be if they had to sent their children.  Can you imagine as they look into their children eyes to send them to war?  Man, would there be quick resolution,
ButterflyII
by ButterflyII on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 11:42:54 AM EDT
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I totally agree with you about sending the children of the congress and administration officials first.  It is not punishment on the children for the sins of their fathers; it is a way to keep people focused on what is necessary and proper.  

If war is necessary, then the children of the rulers should be proud to represent their fathers' and mothers' policies.  It would be a matter of honor and dignity.

Since this is not our policy, war now is a matter of economic profit, and our rulers can only win, so why not?  Bring 'em on!

by maggiemaine (maggiemaine) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 03:24:18 PM EDT
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Another step necessary in this fight to smash the war racket is the limited plebiscite to determine whether a war should be declared. A plebiscite not of all the voters but merely of those who would be called upon to do the fighting and dying. There wouldn't be very much sense in having a 76-year-old president of a munitions factory or the flat-footed head of an international banking firm or the cross-eyed manager of a uniform manufacturing plant - all of whom see visions of tremendous profits in the event of war - voting on whether the nation should go to war or not. They never would be called upon to shoulder arms - to sleep in a trench and to be shot. Only those who would be called upon to risk their lives for their country should have the privilege of voting to determine whether the nation should go to war.
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by Don on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 08:58:16 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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Smedely Rocks! That's the best idea I've seen in a long time. There should also be resumption of the draft immediately following a vote for war. This would put us out of the war racket for a long time, if not permantly, because the only necessary wars are ones in which a nation's sovreignty or security are truly threatened. As we know no power capable of such a threat has existed since the Soviet Union and even that was exxagerated.
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by Peacedog (louisrue@charter.net) on Sun Jul 30th, 2006 at 08:30:34 PM EDT
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Right now they're recruiting Filipinos and other people that are willing to fight for 2 cents because their kids are starving.  When there's a will there's way.  That will be the new MO, and there are, and always will be poor people to exploit in different ways.
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 03:45:29 PM EDT
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if we can only tackle one at a time, I think we'd better get Cheney first. Can you imagine him as president, even for the time it would take to impeach him, even if Congress were willing?

Bush, on the other hand, would look awful funny without Cheney propping him up.

by Mutternich on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 04:18:42 PM EDT

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You are MY kind of man.

With gratitude and grateful cooperation,

EWO
Risk! Risk anything! Care no more for the opinions of others, for those voices. Do the hardest thing on earth for you. Act for yourself. Face the truth.
by eyeswideopen (fairy_taletrash@yahoo.com) on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 05:41:10 PM EDT http://www.usalone.com/cgi-bin/petition.cgi?pnum=302

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If we remove Cheney and Bush, that means that the Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert follows? Right? I don't want him. And so on. How is this to work? We can't impeach the entire administration. That's called an election.

Can we have a "vote of confidence" and then have another election? Like some of the states do (California a few years back). And then remove the entire administration. Is there such an item as a "vote of confidence" followed by a new election for the White House?

There's a lot of legal minds here. Help. Getting rid of Bush doesn't really help our death spiral. We need a new administration.

by Z man on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 07:03:09 PM EDT

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I can't find anything in the Constitution that allows for a recall of a President. In forming the Constitution it seems New Jersey suggested the President could be recalled with a vote from the State Governors. But I guess it did not make the Constitution.

by Z man on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 03:13:03 AM EDT
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Congress won't do anything until they can't get into their offices or their homes because so many of us patriots are camped outside.   It'll be the equivalent of those orange, velvet (whatever) revolutions that swept authoritarian governments out of Eastern Europe, only it'll be our very own authoritarian government that'll be getting the boot,  and good riddence. too.  

We can start with either a democratic or republican politico (or both).   How to mobilize?   It's the Internet, dummy!    And how about TO as our central communication hub?

On your mark, get set, go!    Ok, which Congressperson / Senator do we go after first?    

 

by booboo on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 08:25:13 PM EDT

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We have a broken system.  This sytem has allowed this level of perversion and corruption of the basic democratic beliefs this nation was founded on.

Although our constitution IS a fine document, we are trapped by it to suffer through what has been a coup by corporate military interests exploiting the ignorant and ill informed xtian taliban

They follow the laws they want, and NOBODY has has been held accountable for any of the items raised in Mr Swanson's post.

And what may not be impeachable is that they have stolen and bankrupted this nation.

We are screwed.

Within 6 years more and it will be over... america as we knew it... completely fallen and destroyed by this crowd.

by DefJef on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 08:37:20 PM EDT

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to get rid of the whole stinking bunch of corrupt bastards that occupy space both inside, and now outside (thank goodness) our government.
Read the wisdom of Tom Delay:

Tuesday, July 25, 2006
Tom DeLay is Good for the Jews
by David Benzion | 07/25/2006 11:11 am | Alert moderator

Tom DeLay's love of and support for Israel is legend, but even I was impressed by the depth of feeling shown in an interview he gave to Tovia Singer of Israel's Artuz Sheva radio station. (Arutz Sheva is sort of like the "KSEV of the Jews.")

Listening to DeLay speak, keep in mind that this is someone who is out of power, who doesn't need to court the pro-Israel vote in Congress, talking to a bunch of people who live halfway around the world and who couldn't even vote for him if he were still running for office.

Particularly noteworthy is the following excerpt, which comes at about 18 minutes, 10 seconds into the program-

"[Israelis should know that] The United States is behind them. Everything that we can do we will do, including, if it takes it, we will push to put our own soldiers shoulder to shoulder to yours. That this fight is our fight as well as theirs and we are there with them. And we will do everything that we can to support them and see that they win."

[Emphass added by LST]

Tom DeLay, calling for US troops to join the Israel Defense Forces in combat, hunting Hizb'Allah.

And yes, I've already alerted my contacts down at the Houston Chronicle; let the Moonbatterish editorializing commence. ;)

Oh- and thank you Tom DeLay.

And this guy is the chosen one as far as the fanatical Evangelical movement and Republican's in South Texas are concerned?  Onward Christian Soldiers!!!!!

by Angelgabriel on Tue Jul 25th, 2006 at 10:20:19 PM EDT

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AVIVIM, Israel, July 25 -- Israeli tanks and infantrymen fought house to house Tuesday against Hezbollah fighters whose hit-and-run tactics and punishing attacks have frustrated Israeli troops and slowed their onslaught.
"They don't come right at us because they know we'll shoot them. So they just shoot and run away, shoot and run away. They do what they can do, and we do what we can do," 1st Sgt. Erez Kremer, 21, a tank commander, said in an interview after returning from a 72-hour mission in Lebanon. A Hezbollah missile had narrowly missed his vehicle Tuesday morning, he said, exploding on the side of a nearby building.
"If they face us, they don't have a chance," he said. "I think they fight like cowards, but it can be effective."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/25/AR2006072501400_pf.html

"They fight like cowards"--just like the Minutemen that "fired the shot heard 'round the world" at Concord Bridge--and now, Israeli "Defense" Forces, you will be driven from Lebanon just like the British were driven from New England, just like you were driven out before, and even Delayed Tom can't save you. Long live Hezbollah!!
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by Don on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 12:30:42 AM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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The Immutable President
By MAUREEN DOWD

Washington

It's too bad President Bush spurns evolution -- both in his view of the universe and his view of himself.

Scientists see more and more evidence that human evolution not only exists but is ongoing, as people adapt to changing circumstances with shifts in everything from skin color to the protein structure of sperm.

But with W., it's more a matter of survival of the stubbornist.

If you turn on TV, you see missiles flying, bodies lying, nuclear missiles unleashed and a slaughterhouse in Iraq. But don't despair, because yesterday President Bush announced the establishment of "a joint committee to achieve Iraqi self-reliance." He called it a "new partnership," as if it were some small business.

Isn't it a little late, in July 2006, to be launching a new partnership for such an old mess? Isn't it a little late to realize that Baghdad, a city where 300 garbage collectors have been killed in the last six months, according to press reports, has spun out of control?

In a press conference at the White House with his rogue puppet, the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, Mr. Bush explained that "our strategy is to remain on the offense, including in Baghdad." Then why, after three and a half years, does our offense look so much like a defense?

The president sounded like a Jon Stewart imitation of himself when he assured reporters that Mr. Maliki had "a comprehensive plan" to pacify Iraq. "That's what leaders do," W. lectured, in a familiar refrain. "They see problems, they address problems, and they lay out a plan to solve the problems."

If only the plan were a little less robbing-Peter-to-pay-Paul, and a little more road-to-Damascus epiphany. Taking troops out of Anbar Province, where the insurgency is thriving, to quell violence in Baghdad doesn't inspire confidence that the plan is truly "comprehensive."

And despite W.'s praise of Mr. Maliki's leadership, the plan to start from scratch, in essence, stabilizing neighborhood by neighborhood in Baghdad is, as The Times's Michael Gordon writes, "an implicit acknowledgment of what every Iraqi in Baghdad already knows": the prime minister's "original Baghdad security plan has failed. In the past two weeks, more Iraqi civilians have been killed than have died in Lebanon and Israel."

Mr. Bush also sent Condi Rice to lay out a plan to the Arabs and Europeans about the destruction and refugee flight in Lebanon, but the plan turns out to be a plan to do nothing until Israel has more time to kick the Hezb out of Hezbollah.

W. says he supports more diplomacy, but it's the diplomacy of sanctimony. He now grudgingly notes that "the violence in Baghdad is still terrible," but doesn't seem to grasp the tragic enormity of an occupation that is sliding into civil war and constricting his leverage to deal with all the other crises crackling around the world. The U.N. reported last week that in May and June no less than 5,818 Iraqi civilians were killed.

Although he talked about whether America could be "facile" and "nimble" enough to change with the circumstances in the Middle East, in fundamental ways, he has not changed his attitude at all.

Newsweek's Richard Wolffe says he conducted four "freewheeling" interviews with the president last week, and concluded: "Bush thinks the new war vindicates his early vision of the region's struggle: of good versus evil, civilization versus terrorism, freedom versus Islamic fascism. He still believes that when it comes to war and terror, leaders need to decide whose side they are on."

The president sees Lebanon as a test of macho mettle rather than the latest chapter in a fratricidal free-for-all that's been going on for centuries. "I view this as the forces of instability probing weakness," he said. "I think they're testing resolve."

The more things get complicated, the more W. feels vindicated in his own simplified vision. The more people try to tell him that it's not easy, that this is a region of shifting alliances and interests, the less he seems inclined to develop an adroit policy to win people over to our side instead of trying to annihilate them.

Bill Clinton, the Mutable Man par excellence, evolved four times a day; he had a tactical and even recreational attitude toward personal change. But W. prides himself on his changelessness and regards his immutability as the surest sign of his virtue. Facing a map on fire, he sees any inkling of change as the slippery slope to failure.

That's what's so frustrating about watching him deal -- or not deal -- with Iraq and Lebanon. There's almost nothing to watch.

It's not even like watching paint dry, since that, too, is a passage from one state to another. It's like watching dry paint.

Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.
by lwelsch (LWelsch@gmail.com) on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 03:31:43 AM EDT http://home.comcast.net/~PoliticalThoughts/index.html

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The first thing that came to my mind when the pull-back of our troops to Baghdad was announced, was the pull-back to Saigon.

I hate it when my intuition is right.  
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by blabbermouth on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 09:33:46 AM EDT
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Swamp the White House phone lines.  Express your outrage.  Then call back again and again and again.

The White House Switch Board:  (202)456-1111.
"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 06:14:34 AM EDT

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I too would love to see truth win. I think the reason the movements that Gandhi & Martin Luther King led this past century were effective because they were patient and peaceful, yet determined. They walked the hard road of demonstrating basic humanity in the face of lies and fear tactics. Eventually, the larger public saw the distinction between that and dictatorial control.

So I don't know, maybe storming the phone lines would be effective, but perhaps real life "footsteps" in some form would be as well.

by impatient idealist on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 06:59:42 PM EDT
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Neither MLK nor Ghandi quietly led there lives with utmost patience.  Both earned their "patience" after much hardship (and impatience). Both led civil disobedience campaigns and organzied mass demonstrations.  Both also were very vocal and spoke out publicly and privately, in writing and speech. But they also advocated a do-what-you-can big or small approach.  According to Ghandi, something as simple as spinning one's own thread was a "big" action.

Live "footsteps" -- marches?  demonstrations? bumper stickers?  pamphlets under windsheild wipers?.  All actions, even the small ones, can be effective.  Some can do more, some less.
"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 09:09:55 PM EDT
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Failure Upon Failure
By BOB HERBERT

Imagine a surgeon who is completely clueless, who has no idea what he or she is doing.

Imagine a pilot who is equally incompetent.

Now imagine a president.

The Middle East is in flames. Iraq has become a charnel house, a crucible of horror with no end to the agony in sight. Lebanon is in danger of going down for the count. And the crazies in Iran, empowered by the actions of their enemies, are salivating like vultures. They can't wait to feast on the remains of U.S. policies and tactics spawned by a sophomoric neoconservative fantasy -- that democracy imposed at gunpoint in Iraq would spread peace and freedom, like the flowers of spring, throughout the Middle East.

If a Democratic president had pursued exactly the same policies, and achieved exactly the same tragic results as George W. Bush, that president would have been the target of a ferocious drive for impeachment by the G.O.P.

Mr. Bush spent a fair amount of time this week with the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. There was plenty to talk about, nearly all of it hideous. Over the past couple of months Iraqi civilians have been getting blown away at the stunning rate of four or five an hour. Even Karl Rove had a tough time drawing a smiley face on that picture.

"Obviously the violence in Baghdad is still terrible," said Mr. Bush, "and therefore there needs to be more troops."

One did not get the sense, listening to this assessment from the commander in chief, that things would soon be well in hand. There was, instead, a disturbing sense of déjà vu. A sense of the president at a complete loss, not really knowing what to do. I recalled the image of Mr. Bush sitting in a Sarasota, Fla., classroom after being informed of the Sept. 11 attacks. Instead of reacting instantly, commandingly, he just sat there for long wasted moments, with a bewildered look on his face, holding a second-grade story called "The Pet Goat."

And then there was the famous picture of Mr. Bush, on his way back from a monthlong vacation, looking out the window of Air Force One as it flew low over the destruction wrought by Hurricane Katrina. "It's devastating," Mr. Bush was quoted as saying. "It's got to be doubly devastating on the ground."

I'll tell you what's devastating. The monumental and mind-numbing toll of Mr. Bush's war in Iraq, which is being documented in a series of important books, the latest being Thomas Ricks's "Fiasco." Mr. Ricks gives us more disturbing details about the administration's "flawed plan for war" and "worse approach to occupation."

Near the end of his book, he writes:

"In January 2005, the C.I.A.'s internal think tank, the National Intelligence Council, concluded that Iraq had replaced Afghanistan as the training ground for a new generation of jihadist terrorists. The country had become `a magnet for international terrorist activity,' said the council's chairman, Robert Hutchings."

Saddled with one failure after another, the administration seems paralyzed, completely unable to shape the big issues facing the U.S. and the world today. Condoleezza Rice is in charge of the diplomatic effort regarding Lebanon. She's been about as effective at that as the president was in his response to Katrina.

But Dr. Rice is still quick with the scary imagery. Her comment, "I have no doubt there are those who wish to strangle a democratic and sovereign Lebanon in its crib," recalls her famous, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

It might help if she spent less time giving us provocative metaphors and more time on the very difficult nuts and bolts of trying to maintain or bring about peace.

It may be that a hamstrung Bush administration is a better bet than the same crew being free to act as it pleases. Imagine how much better off we'd have been if Congress had found the wisdom and the courage to prevent the president from invading Iraq.

In two years and a few months Americans will vote again for president. I hope the long list of tragic failures by Bush & Co. prompts people to take that election more seriously than some in the past. If you were about to be lifted onto an operating table, you'd be more interested in the competence of the surgeon than in his or her personality.

Mr. Bush's record reminds us that similarly careful consideration should be given to those who would be president.

Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.
by lwelsch (LWelsch@gmail.com) on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 06:32:02 AM EDT http://home.comcast.net/~PoliticalThoughts/index.html

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WOLVES!!!

We have watched Election Fraud! We have seen them take us to war on lies and a fixed policy. We can't help but notice as we are hit on the head again and again with abuses of power and illegitimate signing statements. Incompetence is rampant in our Administration and our Congress! A mockery has been made of our Constitution. We witness unfinished jobs, poor prior planning at home and abroad, the deliberate revengeful act of the outing of a CIA agent, the stacking of our Supreme Court, the management of the news media, the secrecy and over use of the excuse of national security again and again. There is not enough outrage and too much apathy as too many live self-centered lives and forget about the destruction of our Democracy at home, while  watching our Administration they try to promote it in lands for profit and power! War after War, failure after failure, look what the Bush Administration and the Republicans have done with their power!!!

"A Society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves!" Bertrand de Jouvenal

We are there people, we are there!

SLOGAN:
WITH DEATH AND DESTRUCTION
LIES AND CORRUPTION
TIME TO VOTE AMERICA BLUE!
leesfirst
by leesfirst on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 12:08:53 PM EDT

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You've hit this on the head. Instead of dealing with the Wolves, everyone just crying Wolf to alert an audience thats already alerted, but just can't be bothered.
All the outcry in the world does not an action make!

EPITAPH:

Here lies America, too apathetic, too long,
               Too Late!


by Angelgabriel on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 03:00:14 PM EDT
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I've put this on my web site, but what is enough?

In my view, it's time to get out on the streets. The cabal needs a come-uppance. It's time. It's surely time.

Yeah, it's old stuff, but it speaks volumes about what we're doing.
-- Furrener
by furrener on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 01:11:12 AM EDT

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    Does anybody not know how monstrous this administration is (that's paying any attention at all)? That paranthetical phrase is important, as that's where the crux of this matter lies. The '4th eskrow' isn't paying attention anymore, nor are they publishing the facts anymore, just this he-said-and-his-opponent-said-vomit.

    Has anybody thought about a class action lawsuit by citizens against newspapers and news shows? We could sue them for not broadcasting the news as they advertise that they're publishing/broadcasting the 'news'. We should have them on the dictionary definition, at least.

    Our representatives are ball-less because we've gone through a natural-selection-esque process where the ones that don't rock the electorate and can curry favor with the corporations stay in power, helped by the fact that the same process has promoted the floating support staff for our elected officials stroke this same environment religiously.
Brantl
by brantl (brantl@aiserv.net) on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 10:43:28 AM EDT

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If the only focus of an impeachment is the Iraq war, that is like trying to blow out a burning napkin in a burning house.

The 9/11 truth is coming out HARD and FAST, and it needs to be discussed here at truthout.  A good start would be to link to the video of this weeks C-SPAN coverage of 9/11 Inside Job.

Democracy Now has a video link on C-SPAN to it, but it can also be viewed here:

VIDEO COVERAGE OF THE 9/11 INSIDE JOB EVENT C-SPAN COVERED:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5004704309041471296&q=alex+symposium

ALSO, if you've yet to see the "LOOSE CHANGE" DOCUMENTARY - which is covered in a four-page article in "VANITY FAIR MAGAZINE"s AUGUST 2006 ISSUE:

View the FREE ONLINE VIDEO DOCUMENTARY that raises many important issues regarding 9/11, by visiting:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=94448691996878155&q=9%2F11+loose+change+2nd+edition
Bill Douglas, author of "The Amateur Parent - A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe."
by Bill Douglas (wtcqd2000@aol.com) on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 02:00:18 PM EDT

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Sorry people, hate to sound so negative, but it will never happen. You people actually believe the Democrats are going to try to impeach this man. Not a chance, most of them have no back bone either. Another thing, what could happen if the Dems win the house, they would still need 2/3 vote in the Senate to actually get him impeached by the entire Congress (both house and senate). You can get 2/3 vote by the senate on anything besides tax reduction, or going to war. So what will it accomplish for Bush to be impeached in the house? Absolutely nothing. Oh sorry, maybe we'll be so pre-occupied by this that maybe will get attacked again.

by IraqWarVeteran on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 07:00:56 PM EDT
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Dream on.  Bush will no more be impeached than Andrew Jackson was.

Zhu Bajie
Zhu Bajie
by zhubajie (zhubajie12001@yahoo.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 10:53:56 PM EDT

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