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Cease-Fire Now

By WilliamPitt

Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 09:54:42 AM EDT :: Middle East

Sunday's horrific air attack by Israel on the Lebanese village of Qana has radically altered the dynamic of this current conflict. Before the attack, the United States was happy to allow Israel to act with impunity. The Arab League had accused Hezbollah of starting the whole thing, which was itself a remarkable thing. Many accused Israel of pushing too hard, of expending excessive violence in its campaign against the guerrillas, but until Sunday it appeared that Israel was going to do its thing until it was satisfied.

Then came the air attack on a residential building where dozens of Lebanese civilians were hiding in the basement. "There were different accounts of the death toll," reported the New York Times on Monday morning. "Residents said as many as 60 people had been inside. News agencies reported that 56 had been killed, and that 34 of them were children. The Lebanese Red Cross, which conducted the rescue, counted 27 bodies, as many of 17 of them children. The youngest of the dead was 10 months old, and the oldest was 95. One was in a wheelchair."

Nicholas Blanford of the Lebanon Daily Star reported from Qana as the bodies were retrieved, even as Israel continued with its attacks. "An earth-mover ground down the lane and began clawing chunks of concrete away from the building," wrote Blanford. "Even as the rescue team toiled to recover the dead, Israeli jets continued to roar overhead and the thump of air strikes and exploding artillery shells reverberated around the steep valley. Amid the despair and the grim task of removing the victims, there was deep anger at what they regarded as the callous indifference of the West to their suffering. 'We will never wave the white flag. We won't retreat,' said Mohammad Shalhoub. 'I say to the West, this is not the kind of freedom and democracy we want.'"

Please read my newest essay, Cease Fire Now, and let me know what you think.


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Karl Rove has done it again!   He's come up with the perfect domestic political strategy at a time when Republicans desperately need one, right before mid-term elections in which Republicans are sinking and Democrats are on the ascendancy.   With Israel attacking Lebanon front and center in the voters' minds:

  •  The fiasco in Iraq fades from view
  •  Domestic issues (tax cuts for the rich, stealnig of our civil rights, the list is long) fade from view
  •  Liberals turn against each other.

The last requires a bit of explanation:

  1.  Civilian casualties put Israel squarely in the role of "bad guy".   Anyone with a brain begins to question Israel's traditional hold on the U.S. economy ($3 billion in foreign aid, most of it military).   Liberals & progressives inclined to go with the underdog start to wonder "Who IS the underdog here?"

  2.  On the other hand, staunch/unwavering supporters of Israel make up a rather large percentage of the liberal/progressive movement.   For some of these folks, it is very difficult to hear criticism of Israel.

What happens when Liberals of type 1 start to argue with Liberals of type 2?   Karl Rove gets his way!

SO I offer herein an explanation that ALL liberals can get behind.  That is:

The current situation was instigated by none other than the Bush administration itself.

Think about it.  How likely is Israel (tiny country surrounded by hostile neighbors completely dependent on big brother U.S. for its existence) ... How likely is such a country to do what it's doing WITHOUT ASKING PERMISSION FIRST?   Zero.   Zero likelihood.  Would you go over the head of YOUR boss?   So, Israel at the very least informed the President Bush and got his OK before going into Lebanon.   At the very least.    

Bush and his crew are just pretending when they act like casual observers of the mess.  Sending Condi in to patch things up?   Come on, they don't WANT to succeed.   They WANT Israel to take the heat for this!  Blaming Israel is absolutely the best way to put U.S. progressives and the Democratic party into a state of paralysis.    

Think about it folks.  And ... don't fall for it.

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Mike

BTW my e-mail listed here is incorrect.    It should be mrogers2007@hotmail.com


by mrogers2006 (mrogers2006@hotmail.com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 11:17:12 AM EDT

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and I agree that this was planned in advance, orchestrated, approved, and supported by the Bush administration. Aside from the obvious reasons you offer above that will help the Republicans in their fall elections, by dividing and conquering the liberals on the Mid-East conflict (a pure Rovian strategy that always works), there is the added advantage to the neocon cabal - they will once again profit HUGELY over the chaos they have created. Once again, the "help" given to rebuild Lebanon will fall into the pockets of Bush and company; once again OUR tax dollars will be paid to rebuild what Bush (aka Israel) has destroyed and his buddies at Halliburton and other corporate frat friends and colleagues will fill their coffers with OUR tax dollars.

This administration uses war to enrich themselves at everyone's expense - live lost, homes destroyed, economies raped, futures ruined, and dollars-dollar-dollars...a GAZILLION of them.

And the third added bonus is the idiotic rapture-crazed fundamentalists in this country, who are turning cartwheels in glee over their beloved "End Times" coming soon, at your nearest theater...stay tuned! Come to church! And don't forget to vote Republican if you want to go to Heaven!

by WonderWoman on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 01:20:49 PM EDT
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I completely agree with Mike's assessment. While not wanting to apologize for Israel's role, I am certain  she is carrying water for the Bush administration.
selma
by selma (selma) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 02:36:01 PM EDT
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You hit the nail on the head.  I knew as the mid-term elections came forward so would tragic situations.  I said it months ago and here it is with all the children and innocent dying.  It's what they do.  Kill the children and innocent.
ButterflyII
by ButterflyII on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:08:10 PM EDT
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Mike,  Which came first the chicken, or the egg?

True, the United States is supplying weapons to Israel; but Iran is also supplying weapons to Hesbolla.  I will agree that Bush should have listened to his Father when told to stay out of Iraq. I know our President is not very intelligent, and I know that he said he wanted to be a wartime president; but, I won't accuse him of pushing for the war between Israel and the Hezbolla of Lebanon.
Bob
by bomar1224 (bomar1224@hotmail.com) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 06:31:29 PM EDT
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The Associated Press

Published: August 4, 2006

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/04/africa/web.0804lebanon.php

"However, the strikes early Friday hit the affluent Christian locality of Jounieh, north of the capital, for the first time. The bombing against the picturesque coastal resort marked a sharp expansion of Israel's attack on Lebanon, which now threatens Christian areas where Hezbollah has no support and no presence.
   The broadening strikes could be part of Israel's attempt to pressure the Lebanese government into accepting its conditions for ending the fighting by cutting off Lebanese regions."

Such actions will only serve to polarize those in the US and Europe who steadfastly support Israel and they will surely UNITE the Lebanese against the US and Israel.  

And how does Israel justify this.  Do they really believe the Lebanese Christians are harboring Hezbollah fighters?  So much for the Israeli rhetoric of only targeting Hezbollah strongholds.
"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 07:27:05 AM EDT
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There are those in power in the US who claim to be a friend to Israel, offering overt and tacit approval to whatever is deemed necessary by the rulers there.  But those supporters are no friend to Israel.  They merely act as friend and ally, really seeking Israel's destruction for their own foul purposes.  Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is perhaps too foolish to see this, playing warrior with his generals and his Defense Minister Amir Peretz, too pre-occupied to see or care.

by parzival (debonair1@peoplepc.com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 12:13:45 PM EDT
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of course, we all know that Bush wont let cease-fire happend till burning Lebanon in whole and gets Hizbullah and specially Nasrullah who pop up after each strike by Israeli.

In fact, I dont think any of the Lebanise will ever think of agreeing to UN resolution 1559, I doubt it for the Lebanise saw their country is been destroyed in total almost everything its been made attentionly, soon we shall see the US companies makeing the deal to re-construct Lebanon!

And you are right William, Israeli will never ever took the war choice without a clear confirmation from Bush .. no doubts.

I wonder till what limit Bush wanted people to hate USA?? few years ago many had hate Bin Laden in Middle East, now I promise NONE or close that.

Myself I was again Hizbullah, in fact, I never agreed to Hizbullah, I even typed many articles in some Arabian sites attacking Hizbullah, but NOW, I GUESS HIZBULLAH IS A MUST AND ITS SUPPORT IS A MUST, for you can never believe the Israeli for God sake, they promised 48 hours of cease-fire, it wasnt even 14 hours yet, they made a strike killing Lebanise army officer, while we all know that the Lebanise army are not part of this war.. SO WHY IS THAT NOW?

I guess Israeli wanted the equality of a war, an army on both side not just Hizbullah for their face is uncovered clearly now, an exceuse for the Israeli to keep destructing Lebanon in total and find more support even!

Cease-fire, then a safe area.. TO BE TOKEN OFF FROM THE LEBANISE LAND.. why is that even?

why it has to be from the Lebanise land ??

Its going to be worst if the Lebanise army decided to enter the zone war now.. while they been attacked by the Israeli many times.. but this time was a good ranked army official... while a promise been taken from the Israeli for a 48 cease-fire!

Its not a mistake, it never... its just attentionly been made tho.

God bless Lebanon and its people.. Amen!
God created man to build not to destroy
by 3arabi on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 12:29:41 PM EDT http://www.palsteen.com/

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Iraq and Afghanistan.  May the Muslim world
unite in the face of this injustice.

I blame Israel and the Bush Admin. equally
for the war on Lebanon. The Israelis will
only frustrate the Muslims and Arabs to
the extent, the distrust and hatred and
divide between the Muslim world and the US
gets beyond repair.  They are using every
opportunity to further this goal while
the US has a Moron for a President.  

 
Raised eyebrows!
by New Actor (New Actor) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 01:58:29 PM EDT
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I've tried looking for that new peace resolution drafted by the French, but I can't find it.  Is that not something that is put out to the public before the parties can agree?  

I've been very curious to see what the language reads like.  Not that it ultimately matters, but I'm betting that Blair's promotion of it is a sign of it being skewed and unacceptible to the Lebanese.
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:45:52 PM EDT
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,00.html

you know who you are
"There is nothing in the world that is hidden." -Dogen Zenji
by amoeba (fermentman at gmail dot com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 01:00:02 PM EDT

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"Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy
by SlowDown on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 04:21:37 PM EDT
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  Yes-- "Sunday's horrific air attack by Israel on the Lebanese village of Qana has radically altered the dynamic of this current conflict"--by "transforming the guerrillas into heroes within the region" and prolonging the conflict. No ceasefire.

 Israel suspending air strikes in Lebanon for 48 hours? If there is any decrease in bombing it will only be because they ran out of bombs.

 The Rapture Index is still well below its three-year high so: Who's next? Syria? Iran?
http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html

 Bush has no opposition in the Congress. None.

NEWS ITEM:
Congressional Democrats echo Bush's defense of Israel
By Ron Hutcheson
McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON - While President Bush routinely faces criticism from congressional Democrats over the Iraq war and his domestic policies, there's been little criticism over his stance on Israel's campaign against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.

That has freed him to stand firm against growing international pressure for an immediate cease-fire.

Even as much of the world expressed outrage Sunday over an Israeli airstrike that killed more than three dozen Lebanese children, a leading Democrat echoed Bush's defense of Israel.

"I have no criticism of the president on this issue because I think he is doing the right thing," Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., told CNN. "I know some in the world have called for an immediate cease-fire. But that says Hezbollah has a gun to Israel's head; let's let them continue to keep the gun there, which they can use at will. It's just not fair to Israel."
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/15159997.htm
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 01:58:48 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/

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Whenever an attack on Israel can be fabricated, they have a green light from Bush.

IDF prepared for attack by Syria
By YAAKOV KATZ, The Jerusalem Post

While Israel is not interested in opening a front against Syria, the IDF will respond harshly and with its full might if President Bashar Assad decides to attack Israel, a high-raking IDF officer in the Northern Command told The Jerusalem Post Sunday. "We are continuing with our message that we are not interested in fighting with Syria," the officer said, "But we are fully prepared for a Syrian attack, in the case of which we will strike back extremely hard."

Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1153292032964&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 02:15:49 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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The first choice way to get Iran pulled into this conflict is to get Syria pulled in.  Then Bush doesn't have to use the "they're enriching uraniam" excuse.
"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 03:52:08 PM EDT
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What do they hope to gain by engulfing the entire Mid East in a nuclear war (which it will be if they pull in both Syria and Iran)? The fallout will pollute the landscape for so many eons, it would not matter how much oil they could free up by wiping those people off the face of that parched earth; no one could go in and retrieve the oil much less afford to buy it. And the resulting planetary destruction would far exceed Halliburton's clean up capabilities. I know it's all about money and control, but this is stupid.

Maybe this is how Bush plans to remain "king" of the U.S.

If they think that creating chaos by pitting those nations against each other will benefit them, they are far more stupid than I ever thought.

I cannot figure out what the Bush cabal expects to gain.

by WonderWoman on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 04:27:47 PM EDT
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The US has ALWAYS benefitted from war. It gave the country all its territory, it gave it colonies, it made it a world power after WWI and pulled us out of the depression in WWII, it has consolidated its world economic hegemony with various other invasions and attacks, including Vietnam, it cemented its hegemony in the Middle East in the Gulf War, and now the US is extending its power over Iraq and soon Syria and Iran. War is tough on the people affected by it, but that doesn't include the ones who order it and benefit most from it. War is a proven winner and provides economic health to the state. Even devastation provides opportunity to rebuild--disasters are good for the economy too. Will a future nuclear conflict make the planet uninhabitable? Our fearless leaders will control it. There is just no down side, for them. Unfortunately.
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 05:34:59 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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But I do. Granted we have "benefitted" in the past, when we weren't using the toxic weaponry we have available today, but with these new killer toys, the impact on earth will be nothing short of catastrophic.

You wrote, "Will a future nuclear conflict make the planet uninhabitable? Our fearless leaders will control it. There is just no down side, for them. Unfortunately."

I am assuming that to be sarcasm, because there is just no way they can "control" a nuclear holocaust. The depleted uranium we are raining down in the Mid East right now is escalating death and destruction which cannot be reversed. Humankind will not outlive the radioactive planet which will result if Bush has his way in the Mid East.

I think this IS crazy and stupid, regardless of what those fools think.

by WonderWoman on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:25:48 PM EDT
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a nuclear holocaust and so, unlike you, they dismiss it. If it's crazy and stupid why is there so much support in the country and in the Congress?
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:37:11 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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as in flag-waving red-white-and-blue bunting patriotism from the Republican faithful and "support" as in the Israeli Lobby-controlled Congress?

You see, I consider all of those people idiots and fools...idiots because they are so caught up in their fanciful and emotional and romantic view of their political party (the fake patriots), and fools because they have sold their souls to the highest bidder (our "elected" officials).

I think they have turned a blind eye to the possibility because it is too horrific to even consider. These are people who will follow the Pied Piper himself because they DON'T WANT to know the truth. The truth does not set these people free, it would force them to look in the mirror and see themselves for the killers and hypocrites others know them to be. The truth hurts, and these people don't like to hurt. They prefer to hurt others.

Perhaps we should be the little boy in the crowd who has the courage to state the obvious: the naked emperor. If the fake patriots and the crooked politicians cannot admit that they are following a fool into an unwinnable nuclear conflagration, then truth tellers and truth seekers must do it and do it so well that our voices can be heard over the crowd of naysayers and do it so adeptly that what we say can be picked up in media sound bites.

by WonderWoman on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:53:03 PM EDT
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In crackpot realism, a high-flying moral rhetoric is joined with an opportunist crawling among a great scatter of unfocused fears and demands. In fact, the main content of "politics" is now a struggle among men equally expert in practical next steps--which, in summary, make up the thrust toward war--and in great, round, hortatory principles.
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=798
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:51:13 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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I do like it! I'm going to share it. Thanks.

by WonderWoman on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 09:06:12 PM EDT
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"They know of no solutions to the paradoxes of the Middle East and Europe, the Far East and Africa except the landing of Marines"

Not to sound simplistic- though that's where I am still- but do they really need to understand the paradoxes of any place they want to plunder?

I think the new way to do business comes down to this:

-Destabilize
-create war
-plunder
-rebuild with tax payers money through private contracts to the Halliburtons
-The Halliburtons take the money and rebuild with slave labor (as with our $6 million embassy in Iraq)

Only the rich benefit, while our country sinks into greater debt, and the Chinese buy it out.

Am I understanding the big picture correctly?
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 11:41:32 PM EDT
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"When someone makes a move
Of which we disapprove,
Who is it that always intervenes?

UN and OAS,
They have their place I guess.
But first,  Send the marines!

We'll send them all we've got,
John Wayne and Randolph Scott.
Remember those exciting fighting scenes.

To the shores of Tripoli,
But not to Mississippoli.
What do we do?  We send the marines!

For Might Makes Right
And 'til they've seen the light,
They've got to be protected,
All their rights respected,

Until someone we LIKE can be elected!

The members of the Corps
All hate the thought of war.
They'd rather kill them off by peaceful means.

Stop calling it aggression,
We HATE that expression.

We only want the world to know
That we support the status quo.
They love us everywhere we go.
So when in doubt, Send the Marines!"

Tom Lehrer, 1964

by mrogers2006 (mrogers2006@hotmail.com) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 01:49:10 AM EDT
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Did you see how McCaine's son has joined them?  He must want to be a politician some day and ride on his father's name.  

Synical ha?

I sure feel sorry for all of the brain-washed kids that think they are fighting for democracy.  I have a friend that is a career marine, and he yells at me for what he considers my non-support for the troops.  A staunch republican with 5 kids who has swalloed every bit of the neocon mantra. :(
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 11:35:37 AM EDT
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Like his father, a third generation Naval Officer, all of the Kennedy brothers old enough to serve, George Herbert Walker Bush,  John Kerry, and many other young ambitious men with political ambition who grew up during times of war or militry threat, they knew that when their time came to campaign it would behoove them to have a "war record," the more glorious, the better.

So, off they went to "get their ticket punched."

Off hand, I think of young GHW Bush, the youngest Naval Aviator to fly into combat in WWII, and get shot down; Young JFK, swimming for his life, while dragging an injured crewman along behind him; the kid's father, John S. McCain, who spent five and a half of the longest years of his life as a prisoner of war, and refused to be released until all of his fellow prisoners were freed; and two of our most recent and valiant heroes, one who earned three Purple Heart before putting his war behind him; and the other who served so famously in the TANG.

I don't have the foggiest idea why young McCain joined the Marine Corps.  Maybe he wants to be President someday; maybe he likes the uniform; maybe he thinks girls like the uniform; maybe he likes to shoot things off, play poker with the guys, crawl around in muddy or dusty, places, and learn to sleep standing up.

It is his decision and, for whatever reason he made it, he has chosen what at best is a hard life and, at worst, a damned dangerous one.

As an American, he has that right.  And, as an American, you should respect his right to chose.

Whether you agree with him, what he did, or why he did it, or what you think of his intelligence or state of behavioral conditioning, is your business... but you have no right to, mock, demean or belittle the boy.  Feel sorry for him, if you must, that's your business.

You may consider your Marine friend a fool, or brainwashed.  For all I know, both he and the McCain boy could be both.  But, I doubt that being Marines would have a hellova lot to do with that.  Some people are just born that way; some are not.

Sure, there are a lot of "bad" Marines, as there are soldiers, policemen, Chairmen and women of the Board, Thieves, Bankers, CEOs and Presidents and Vice Presidents of the United States.  Look at the barrel they have to select them from!

We can't all be as wise as you would like us to be.  

by sirius99 (Aiman) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 02:35:53 PM EDT
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It has nothing to do with being a "marine" per se.  And I don't disrespect anyone for wanting to be in the military all together.  I feel sorry for them.

Not so funny that the majority of the guys that are getting killed for our wars are between 19-25 yrs old.  What a coincidence!!!???

I feel sorry for them because I do believe that they are brainwashed.  Why else (except for extreme poverty, or a need for immediate citizenship) would you sign up to get killed for this fascist government?

And yes that is my opinion whether you like it or not.  Or whether you like the way I put it, or not.

And I hardly was mocking Jr.  But I guess you're right, everyone here has a right to an ideology.  Fascist or not.  And if it's his ideology that sent him off, good for him!  Let him put his boots where his mouth is.  Let him go off to kill a bunch of Middle Eastern babies!!!

If it's because he wants to be president some day, well, I guess people have proved to value war hawks as our commanders in chief.  In that case we deserve everything we get, because there is no freaking rotation in the US government.  We keep electing the same people over and over again, and there is no progress.

I guess I hit a soar spot.  You must be a marine.
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 04:40:55 PM EDT
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I Was One Of Those 19-25 Year Olds of which you speak.  I think, perhaps foolishly, that makes me a more qualified speaker on this subject than you.

You are correct, it is kids like those who make the best soldiers and warriors, so they are the ones selected and sent.

They are young, strong, healthy and quick.  On the cutting edge of life's learning curve, few have learned to think for themselves, or even know who they are.

They are big enough to pull a trigger of toggle a bomb.  Too young yet to be concerned with where it goes or what happens when it gets there.

Back home, in College, they would be big enough to chug twelve Saturday night beers and run drags on the freeway, yet too young to be concerned about those big solid bridge abutments on the flyovers.  In either case, immortal!  Get it?  

They only have to be taught how to use the tools, and not think too much about it.

That's why they retire us so young.  Somewhere over thirty, most of them begin to think, and some of them slow down and queston.  At home, we would back off on the booze, maybe, and give up drag-racing.  Well, some of us....

Whatever motivates them, dreams, idealism, romanticism, any of the -isms, rightfully, wrongfully, smart or stupid, they are strong, quick and effective for the job they are sent on.  Those who are not "properly motivated" do not get sent.

Don't blame the kids.  Blame the people who select these kids, makes them what they are, and sends them.  Don't blame or demean the kids.

If you have a problem with any of that, then change the people or system which controls the game.

Knowing how tha game works does not necessarily endorse it.  It's just saying it the way it is!

Some wise sage here recently remarked that War is hell.  No shit!  Maybe we ought to think about ending war altogether, eh?

Blame the people who make the wars, they are old enough to know better...you don't see any of them, or theirs, out there fighting, except young McCain and damned few others.  

Don't blame the kids who fight and die in them!

And, save your pity for yourself.  I never wanted, and I never knew any of those 19-25 year-olds who wanted, or would accept, pity from you or anyone like you.

A touch of respect and understanding for who they are and what brought them to where they are might be appreciated.

Or, perhaps a ticket home, eh?  

by sirius99 (Aiman) on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 04:55:31 AM EDT
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Be careful now, you are becoming too transparent.  I think it's time for you to look up the word bigot.... because no one is going to give "anyone" a free pass on that one, even if  they served in the military.    

I was born here.  

Funny, with all of your self pitty and righteous indignation, you happened to have made my point for me.  

Maybe the military needs to invest in logic 101 courses, after they invest in reading courses, of course.  OHHHH NO, wait!! that would be completely counter intuitive!!!  

Never mind!!  

Madurate un poco mocoso.  La baba que se te esta corriendo de la boca es demasiada.  
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 at 03:23:26 AM EDT
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I really doubt that... they seem to have enough problems of their own; what in the Hell would they want with America, at any price?

If things keep going as they are, at this downhill rate, a Chinese buy-out may be our last hope!

by sirius99 (Aiman) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 08:55:18 AM EDT
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I'm definitely no expert. And I'm not even sure I understand this very well. But this sounds kind of grim to me.  Maybe someone can explain it better.

From the Asia Times:

"China recycles trade surplus into US Treasury bonds
American companies may have forgotten what Henry Ford propounded when he first built his Model T: If you do not pay high enough wages to your workers, they can't afford to buy your product. One simple basis for that Bush boom is that China is recycling its US$100 billion-plus trade surplus with the US back into dollars, and especially into US Treasury bonds. Almost half of the US Treasury bonds are now owned in Asia. So China is financing Bush's bold economic experiment: running two or more wars simultaneously with a huge budget and trade deficit, and equally huge tax handouts for the richest Americans. "

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The whole article:

China-US: Double bubbles in danger of colliding
By Ian Williams

What happens when two bubbles collide? Do they both burst, or do they coalesce and become an even bigger bubble - which will eventually burst even more spectacularly? That is the question posed by the growth figures from both the US and China, whose growth rates are tied in ways that neither seems to want to admit too loudly.

Even before this week's figures on China's explosive 9.1 percent growth in 2003, which many commentators thought actually understated the reality, the United Nations' annual economic report had identified the People's Republic of China as the locomotive for growth in Asia (with a nod to India), and added that the US with its 4 percent growth rate will do the same job for the industrialized world. But once again, the question must be asked - will these two Chinese and US engines run in the same direction indefinitely, or will they begin to diverge? Indeed, even more scarily, will they have a head-on collision and involve the world economy in the mother of all train-wrecks?

The problems have been noted. The UN report cited "the rapid rising weight of China in the world economy and its role in the present recovery," but it also warned that UN economists see a need for the US to reduce its government deficit. That echoed the very trenchant International Monetary Fund (IMF) report that described the deficit as "perilous" in the long run, posing "significant risks" to the rest of the world. IMF economists also cautioned that one should add to the short term a US$500 billion deficit that the US administration is running, a further US$47 trillion in unfunded long-term commitments for US Social Security and the federally funded Medicare health program for the elderly and indigent. And the IMF pointed out that there were additional liabilities from cash-strapped local governments, forced to borrow to compensate for federal cutbacks.

On the American trade deficit, the IMF also warned ominously, "The United States is on course to increase its net external liabilities to around 40 percent of its GDP within the next few years - an unprecedented level of external debt for a large industrial country." The report suggested that this situation would push the dollar even further down.

On the other side of the Pacific, perhaps it should not be regarded as a token of maturity that the money managers who poured funds into AOL, MCI, Enron and Tyco - all with problems, to say the least - are now pouring millions into Chinese IPOs with the same enthusiasm. It is difficult to see any more economic rationale in the 1,600-times oversubscribed China Green Holdings than the Internet Bubble of the last decade.

And now US investment banks are licking their chops at the prospects of taking Chinese Banks public. However, the $45 billion that Beijing has put into two of the Big Four government-owned banks can be seen as a mature appreciation of their problems - or as a symptom of the continuing cronyism and lack of democracy and transparency in the system and a down payment on what Standard & Poor's estimates could be up to $600 billion needed to bail out the bad loans. But that little detail probably won't stop Wall Street from rushing to buy if the banks are floated, as Beijing plans.

The China Bubble is expanding dangerously
At one time, China's autarkic economy protected it from outside influence. But along with this week's figures on economic growth came another ominous big number. From once being nearly self-sufficient in oil, China is now the second biggest oil importer in the world - and is on the verge of needing massive coal imports as well. The China Bubble has expanded to a point where it will soon reach the sharp edges of infrastructural capacity and reckless over-investment to the point of over-production. That is when bubbles burst.

Most publicized American forecasters tend to be Panglossianly bullish. They only ever see the upside, usually of the American economic prospects, but many of their China watchers seem to be wearing the same rose-colored glasses, seemingly oblivious to how co-dependent the two economies are.

For a more detached viewpoint, to look at the two economies separately is like looking at the two wheels of a bike without looking at the frame that connects them. Looking at the US-China bi-cycle in motion exacerbates the separate notes of caution that international agencies have sounded against each country. In fact, there is an inherent and additional precariousness in this double bubble act.

Veteran New York money manager Arnold Schmeidler - who did not invest in dot.com IPOs - warns, "We are in a period unlike anything since the 1930s when the world is confronting deflationary forces." The president and founder of A R Schmeidler & Co Inc asks how sustainable it is that "American auto companies are selling their production at zero interest rates, because there is excess capacity. But China is building auto plants to make hundreds of thousands of vehicles, so we have extra capacity being brought into a market where we already have excess capacity. So the trend is towards 40 cents an hour wages and top quality competing against the US."

Schmeidler concludes, "The single greatest force for deflation is when you have open trade between nations that have the ability to import the most efficient manufacturing expertise into a low-wage-base society, and so can produce products of the same quality as the high wage economy. The price pressure on the product allows consumers to get more for their money and they benefit. But it is disinflationary, if not deflationary."

In fact, of course, China currently is lending the US the money to buy Chinese production.

For example, as the "boom" of President George W Bush takes off, puzzled American commentators are asking where are all the extra jobs that the apparently positive indicators should be creating. In fact, they are being created abroad - mostly in China.

China recycles trade surplus into US Treasury bonds
American companies may have forgotten what Henry Ford propounded when he first built his Model T: If you do not pay high enough wages to your workers, they can't afford to buy your product. One simple basis for that Bush boom is that China is recycling its US$100 billion-plus trade surplus with the US back into dollars, and especially into US Treasury bonds. Almost half of the US Treasury bonds are now owned in Asia. So China is financing Bush's bold economic experiment: running two or more wars simultaneously with a huge budget and trade deficit, and equally huge tax handouts for the richest Americans.

One has to question the long-term economic rationale for China of putting its long-term assets into very low-interest bonds in a currency that has already dropped recently by a third - and is going to drop even more. It certainly makes strategic sense: if push came to shove over, for example, the Taiwan Strait, all Beijing has to do is to mention the possibility of a sell order going down the wires. It would devastate the US economy more than any nuclear strike the Chinese could manage at the moment.

But far from wanting to devastate the dollar, China is more concerned to maintain its currency's parity with the dollar, even as it devalues massively against the Euro or the Yen. Indeed, without those Sino-dollars flowing back, the dollar would have tanked even more.

There is a big multiplier effect here. China only accounts for 3 percent of the world's GDP, but for from three to five times as much of the world's growth. And its economy is disproportionately trade-oriented. So its double act with the US - both the seller of consumer goods on a huge scale and the financer for US' purchase makes it even more important.

It does not help that the US, which has the experience, certainly shows no signs of using it to assess longer term dangers, and even if China had that foresight of perils ahead, Beijing lacks the experience to act effectively.

Dangerously, the global economy is faced by an addictive combination of China - a developing country with many problems of social instability - and the US - which the recent IMF report hints is a rapidly undeveloping country - whose fiscal irresponsibility is compounded by a political immaturity that tends to ignore geopolitical and economic reality.

If the US economy sinks and Americans stop buying Chinese goods, then it will compound the US slump as China first stops buying US bonds that have inflated the American bubble and then moves on to selling them. On the other hand, if the Chinese economy falters and it stops recycling dollars into the US economy, then the boom stops anyway. Indeed, it seems that China increasingly will need more of that cash to pay for energy imports anyway.

But New York money manager Schmeidler, and others who remember that economics is the dismal science, realize that it is still better science than politicians drumming up votes and investment bankers drumming up business seem to understand. The West is in the red, and if it crashes, the East may join it.

(Copyright 2004 Asia Times Online Co, Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact content@atimes.com for information on our sales and syndication policies.)
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 11:26:27 AM EDT
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Made in China!
Raised eyebrows!
by New Actor (New Actor) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 10:49:20 PM EDT
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Short, sweet and right on target!

It's such a successful formulaic approach, they don't even blink. And sadly, no one seems to pay attention to such an obvious gimmick. Republican supporters seem to literally RUSH to become victims to yet another boardgame in which the rich get richer and the poor get shot and robbed.

by WonderWoman on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 03:21:26 PM EDT
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So, the US and the UK have not come out in support of a ceasefire? So what? The European Union has over 300 million people; combined, it forms an economy as powerful as any in the world.

Why can't the Germans, the French, the Austrians, the Fins, the Turks, the Irish, the Swedes, the Belgians, etc, etc enact and enforce this ceasefire??

Based on the comments their leaders have made, I'm sure one can also count on the unequivocal support of both Russia and China.

What about the 1.780 billion Muslims spread over 46 Muslim countries and the world, that own over 50 percent of the known petroleum reserves and large amounts of other natural and agricultural resources? Are they not powerful enough to effect
a ceasefire?

I don't believe either the US or the UK can do anything to stop them.

Guess what I'm begining to think is:  Why blame the US only?
Raised eyebrows!
by New Actor (New Actor) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 05:19:48 PM EDT
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and are stepping up to do more. The US now has to find a way to demonize France (again), particularly when they keep company with Iran.

France and Iran Step Into Diplomatic Vacuum  

By HASSAN FATTAH and CHRISTINE HAUSER
Published: July 31, 2006

BEIRUT, July 31 -- France and Iran stepped into the diplomatic vacuum in Lebanon today with visits to Beirut by their foreign ministers after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice canceled her trip to the Lebanese capital.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/31/world/europe/31cnd-france.html

The French and Lebanese armies will take part in the multinational peacekeeping force expected to take position along the southern Lebanese border, it was revealed following a meeting between US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in Jerusalem.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283247,00.html
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 05:54:55 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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start drinking Californian, and keep our tongues in our own mouths when kissing, I suppose.

That will keep a lot of them happy.  

by sirius99 (Aiman) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 08:48:57 AM EDT
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German newspapers on Wednesday aired a number of arguments for and against sending German soldiers to the Middle East, with the "burden of history" looming large.

"History is the past, but the history of the Holocaust belongs to the German present," said the Frankfurter Rundschau.

No German soldier should, even theoretically, "be brought into a situation where he has to aim his weapon at an Israeli", it added.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5217438.stm
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
by Don on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 05:59:15 PM EDT http://warisaracket.org/
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a cease-fire, although the US, UK and particularly Israel are refusing to stop the war.

BRUSSELS, Aug 1 (Reuters) - The European Union will try to speak with a single voice on the Lebanon crisis on Tuesday, to press for a rapid ceasefire and a political settlement that could see European troops patrolling southern Lebanon.

EU foreign ministers, holding a rare emergency meeting in August, will push for a quick United Nations resolution and discuss an international peacekeeping force, without making specific pledges to the force, EU diplomats said. "In a climate like this, nobody would send their own soldiers," said Italian Foreign Minister Massimo d'Alema, who had talks with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Jerusalem on Sunday.

"Either there is a ceasefire and an effort by the international community, or there is war ... The international community does not intend to participate in war."

Italy, France, Finland, Sweden and Spain are considering sending troops to Lebanon. There is widespread concern among Europeans that an immediate end to fighting is the essential starting point.

Rice said on Monday a ceasefire to end the 21-day-old war between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas could be forged this week, but Israel rejected any immediate truce.

The EU's 25 states have so far been divided, with Britain following the U.S. line that any ceasefire must be "sustainable" -- seen by critics as a green light for Israel to go on bombing Hizbollah -- while a large majority of member states want an immediate ceasefire.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L31842317.htm
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"War is a racket . . . the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."---Smedley Butler
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"sustainable."  What exactly do they mean by sustainable and how do they profess to bring this about?  What will the strategy be for its acquistion?  Invading Syria or Iran maybe since they've convinced the world through the propaganda machine these 2 nations are behind Hezbollah and to unarm this militia calls the ousting of Syrian and Iranian regimes?  BEAWARE of the big SUSTAINABLE DEMON.  It's amazing how this administration even has the power to demonize common everyday terms.
"We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed." - Unknown American
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defined by this administration, must mean "cop out" or maybe it means they don't want to start anything that can be finished easily, because the longer they can drag something out (sustain it), the more money they can make.

I really think it IS the word of the day, though, and just Condi's clever way to stall without actually saying "stall." If she has one gift it is to creatively manipulate the English language - she's a master at disingenious uses. I just wish she'd stick to her piano and forget all the wordplay. Too many people are dying because of her and her boyfriend.

Hi, emah!

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their children however, the minute one comes to kill their children in front of their face they will learn the meaning of despair.  Have they forgotten?  The law of the land is what goes around come around.  You cannot kill innocent children without placing a big blood stain on your head.  I don't want that stain.  God help all of us.  They have made a pact with satan himself (Bush)
ButterflyII
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Americana, but I think it may depend on the political climate as to which one comes first.

I've been holding on to this article from the Asia Times for a while, and though I see some annoying sections in the way they state things, they talk about the large reserves of oil found in Kazakhstan and who all is investing the money and playing regional chess.  In my mind, it makes Iran much more vulnerable to the US.

So here it goes:
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China lays down gauntlet in energy war
By F William Engdahl

On December 15, the state-owned China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) inaugurated an oil pipeline running from Kazakhstan to northwest China. The pipeline will undercut the geopolitical significance of the Washington-backed Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC)oil pipeline which opened this past summer amid big fanfare and support from Washington.

The geopolitical chess game for the control of the energy flows of Central Asia and overall of Eurasia from the Atlantic to the China

Making the Kazakh-China oil pipeline link even more politically interesting, from the standpoint of an emerging Eurasian move towards some form of greater energy independence from Washington, is the fact that China is reportedly considering asking Russian companies to help it fill the pipeline with oil, until Kazakh supply is sufficient.

Initially, half the oil pumped through the new 200,000 barrel-a-day pipeline will come from Russia because of insufficient output from nearby Kazakh fields, Kazakhstan's Vice Energy Minister Musabek Isayev said on November 30 in Beijing. That means closer China-Kazakhstan-Russia energy cooperation - the

nightmare scenario of Washington.

Simply put, the United States stands to lose major leverage over the entire strategic Eurasian region with the latest developments. The Kazakh developments also have more than a little to do with the fact that the Washington war drums are beating loudly against Iran.

The new China pipeline runs 962 kilometers (598 miles) and will take China a third of the way to Kashagan in the Caspian Sea, one of the world's largest accessible oil reserves. Kashagan is the largest new oil discovery in decades and exceeds the size of the North Sea. This is a major reason Washington has such a strong interest in supporting democratic regime change in the Central Asia region of late.

In the next 10 years, Kazakhstan plans to almost triple oil production, prompting the landlocked nation to seek new export routes because the country wants to avoid pipelines through Russia and excessive Russian dependence. China is now among Kazakhstan's major target markets.

Best public estimates are that Kazakhstan has 35 billion barrels of discovered oil reserves, twice the amount in the North Sea, and may hold about three times more, according to a Kazakh government report released on November 18 in London. German oil engineers have privately reported that recent drilling by Italy's AGIP, the current oil consortium leader for Kashagan, a huge field offshore Kazakhstan southwest of Tengiz, has confirmed enormous oil deposits there.

The government of President Nursultan Nazarbayev plans to produce 3.6 million barrels a day of oil from all fields in Kazakhstan, onshore and off, by 2015. For 2005, they expect to average about 1.3 million barrels a day, making Kazakhstan far larger than Azerbaijan, and second in oil production of the former Soviet states only to Russia.

The December 15 opening of the new Kazakh-China pipeline was a major event for Beijing. Zhang Guobao, vice chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, China's top economic planning agency, attended the opening. CNPC has invested more than $2.6 billion in Kazakhstan since 1997.

Beijing takes the geopolitical prize
In October, Beijing scored a second major geopolitical coup when China completed a $4.18 billion takeover of PetroKazakhstan Inc. It was, in a sense, revenge on Washington for the blocking of the China acquisition of Unocal. US oil majors had made major efforts to lock up Kazakhstan oil after discovery of major oil offshore in the Kashagan field. They failed. ExxonMobil was charged with bribery of Kazakh officials to win a presence in the Kazakh oil business, and a senior Mobil executive was later jailed on US tax evasion in New York tied to the Kazakh bribery payments.

Nazarbayev enjoys good relations with Russia's President Vladimir Putin. He was general secretary of the Communist Party when Kazakhstan was part of the USSR, and is regarded as a sly fox in terms of dealing with Moscow, while also keeping a clear distance from Moscow.

In October, Russia's Lukoil failed in its bid to buy up the Kazakh state oil company, PetroKazakhstan, in a privatization. Nazarbayev indicated a major geopolitical shift in strategy, compared with a decade or more ago, when it appeared that Washington was to be the major foreign ally of Nazarbayev. At that time Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's company, Chevron, became the lead oil contractor and operator in the Kazakh Tengiz oil field. That was just after the breakup of the Soviet Union and the US oil presence in Kazakhstan was a major US political priority supported by the Bill Clinton administration.

The Chevron Tengizchevoil consortium formed the Caspian Pipeline Consortium (CPC) in 1993 amid great fanfare. After years of haggling with the Kazakh government, Chevron finally constructed a pipeline from Tengiz on the Caspian's northeastern shore to the Russian port of Novorossiysk on the Black Sea. Following years of pressure, most members of the CPC group, including Chevron and Oman Oil Co, decided to not pursue future expansions of the CPC line.

Now, a decade later and with the scope of Kazakh oil deposits dwarfing any in the region, with its recent confirmed drillings in the Kashagan field, Nazarbayev has scored a political balance of power coup by turning to Beijing.

In October, Nazarbayev announced that CNPC had won the bid to buy PetroKazakhstan. What will be important to watch, now that Nazarbayev won re-election on December 4, further extending his 14-year reign, is to what extent Washington begins to play up "human rights abuses" by Nazarbayev.

A fledgling "Orange" revolution a la Ukraine has sprung up behind opposition candidate Zharmakhan Tuyakbai and his party, For a Just Kazakhstan. He came in second with 6.6% of the vote and cried fraud, but Washington's and the US media response were muted this time. Rice, in a major trip to shore up sagging US influence in Central Asia on October 10-13, held a private meeting with Tuyakbai. He is clearly being groomed for a possible future role, but clearly not yet.

Washington suffers strategic setback
A major setback for Washington's Eurasian encirclement strategy vis-a-vis China and Russia came several months ago when Uzbekistan's autocratic president Islam Karimov told Washington it could no longer use the Karshi-Khanabad military air base in southeast Uzbekistan, a major piece in Washington's Eurasian chess board play, put into place after September 11, 2001.

Since strong US protest over the government's bloody suppression of protests against a state trial of alleged Islamic fundamentalists in Andijan last May, Karimov's relations with Washington have deteriorated. Karimov's decision to move so aggressively was no doubt influenced by the successful March "Tulip" revolution which toppled Askar Akayev in neighboring Kyrgystan and set the stage for the July election of opposition and US-backed candidate Kurmanbek Bakiev.

On July 29, Karimov announced he was evicting the US entirely from the airbase with a January 2006 exit date. In October, the US Senate, as retaliation, voted not to pay $23 million in base user fees to Uzbekistan for past use. Moscow and Beijing have both moved into the vacuum. A look at the map will indicate why. Uzbekistan is strategic for control or to prevent control by foreign powers such as Washington, of Central Asia and pipeline routes linking Russia, China and Kazakhstan. In October 2004, Moscow secured a long-term military base agreement to station troops in Dushanbe, the capital of nearby Tajikistan, a move by Russia to limit the spread of Washington-backed "color revolutions" in the region.

That appeared to redraw the Eurasian geostrategic map in Moscow's favor, with the recent US loss of Uzbekistan. Uzbekistan is now effectively Russia's main ally in Central Asia.

Washington's position in Eurasia and its future relations with Kazakhstan suddenly assumed high priority. Clearly, the Bush administration decided the time was not ripe to try a full-blown "Orange" revolution in Kazakhstan this month, at least not until Washington's position in the region was stronger. That was a clear purpose of the October Rice visit.

But now with the strong geopolitical turn of Nazarbayev toward playing Beijing to offset potential Washington domination in the region, the situation has begun to change dramatically. A year ago, China attempted to buy out a 16% share in the Kashagan consortium from British Gas, which was willing to sell. That sale was blocked by US consortium member ExxonMobil, the company subsequently charged with bribery and convicted. Now China has opened an oil flow out of Kazakhstan to the East, not the West.

This has major strategic implications for the future of the Washington-backed BTC oil pipeline. That pipeline was built by the Caspian Oil Consortium headed by British Petroleum, and was backed by both Clinton and George W Bush, despite the fact that it was the most costly and least viable oil route out of the Caspian.

Former US national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had been the chief Washington lobbyist advocating the BTC route to circumvent Russia. Its construction was undertaken on the assumption that it would carry not only Baku oil, but also a major share of Kazakh oil from Tengiz and offshore Kashagan oil fields. Oops!

A larger China energy strategy
The December China-Kazakhstan pipeline opening is one part of a massive Chinese plan to secure as much Kazakh oil riches as possible.

The Chinese plan to connect several pieces of infrastructure - part Soviet-built, part Chinese-built - then reverse the flow of some of them and forge a new export corridor stretching from Kazakhstan's oil-rich Caspian basin, including Kashagan, through a series of western and central-Kazakh oil zones, and ultimately into China. With completion of this major project, China will for the first time have secured a source of imported energy not vulnerable to US aircraft carrier battle groups, as is the case with present oil deliveries from the Persian Gulf and Sudan.

Before opening the new pipeline, China imported only 25,000 bpd from Kazakhstan. Once the link between Kenkiyak and Kumkol is finished, connecting existing infrastructure near the Caspian with the portion inaugurated on December 15, the project will pump 1 million bpd. That would be about 15% of China's crude oil needs.

China then plans to tap into production from dozens of Kazakh sites it has acquired during the past several years. This is oil that currently goes west, or north through Russia.

Beijing still prefers the color 'red'
Beijing has also studied the Washington-backed series of regime changes across Central Asia and the "color revolutions" from Georgia to Ukraine and most recently Kyrgystan, and has evidently decided to "nip in the bud" any similar non-governmental organization efforts within China, or in areas strategic to long-term China energy security.

Kyrgystan's "Tulip" revolution last July sounded alarm bells in Beijing. Possible Chinese pipeline links to Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Iran and or Russia would clearly be threatened by a ring of new pro-North Atlantic Treaty Organization neighbors and states between western China and its potential oil sources. Their alarm led to warmer ties between Uzbekistan's Karimov and Beijing in recent months, as well as an invitation from Moscow-tied Belarus President Yuri Lukashenko.

The Washington journal Foreign Policy ran a short item in its October edition by an apparent Chinese dissident. The article, titled, "China's Color-Coded Crackdown", is worth quoting:
In China's halls of power, the fall of post-Soviet authoritarian regimes has raised the uncomfortable specter of a Chinese popular uprising. According to the Hong Kong-based Open magazine, a report by Chinese President Hu Jintao, titled "Fighting the People's War Without Gunsmoke", is guiding the Chinese Communist Party's "counterrevolution" offensive. The report, disseminated inside the party, outlines a series of measures aimed at nipping a potential Chinese "color revolution" in the bud.
Some Chinese apparently call it the Battle of the Two Georges - George Bush and global financier George Soros. The Foreign Policy piece continues:
Perhaps the most telling sign of China's concern has been its crackdown on non-governmental organizations (NGOs). Beijing believes that international organizations, especially advocacy NGOs, have acted as Washington's "black hands" behind the recent regime changes in Central Asia. A recent issue of a biweekly journal run by the Communist Party Propaganda Department referred to Washington's "$1 billion annual budget for global democratization" and identified NGOs such as the International Republican Institute, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), the US Institute of Peace and the Open Society Institute as organizations that "brainwash" local people and train political oppositions.

In late August, ahead of a visit by the UN high commissioner for human rights, Chinese police raided the office of the Empowerment and Rights Institute, a human rights group supported by the NED. A new regulation offering more freedom to NGOs was initially expected later this year. No longer. The Ministry of Civil Affairs has now stopped processing registration applications, effectively freezing many groups' operations. Instead, the only government offices taking an interest in NGOs are the national security agency [China's secret police] and public security forces.

Both have launched investigations into local NGOs. Some senior Chinese managers working for international NGOs have been called in for "private talks" with authorities, though no related arrests or detentions have been reported. Some NGO offices have had plainclothes security officers show up in an effort to clandestinely ferret out information on foreign staff and organizations. Environmental groups have been singled out for a massive government survey, most likely because they have angered powerful agencies by successfully initiating public debates on controversial issues, such as genetically modified foods and huge dam projects, and because only around 10% of green groups are currently registered with the state.

Meanwhile, Beijing has commissioned researchers from several provincial academies of social science to study the activities of NGOs in China. NGO publications such as directories experienced unexpectedly strong sales in recent months, as they no doubt became convenient study tools. Likewise, experts have been dispatched to Central Asia to study how those color revolutions first sprung roots. In a May 19 Politburo meeting, senior administrators from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, where foreign research funds are usually well received, were reminded of the "acute and complicated struggle in the ideological realm in the new millennium". In other words, be careful about the political implications of your research.

According to sources in Beijing, final decisions on the government's approach to NGOs will be made in a November meeting of the State Council, China's highest executive body. As long as the clouds of color revolution are hovering over Central Asia - some, for example, expect storms in Belarus - the Chinese government will stay on high alert ... Beijing's moves against the country's NGO community remain largely unnoticed outside China. If the international community wants an open and democratic China, it should pay more attention to the survival and growth of Chinese liberal institutions. Otherwise, the country will be destined to remain the same shade of red.
Beijing-Tehran-Moscow
At the end of 2004, Beijing signed a $70 billion energy agreement with Tehran, China's largest Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries energy deal to date. China's state Sinopec agreed to buy 250 million tons of LNG over 30 years from Iran, as well as to develop the giant Yadavaran field. That agreement covered the comprehensive development by Sinopec of the giant Yadavaran gas field, construction of a related petrochemical and gas industry including pipelines.

As part of the huge Iran-China economic cooperation agreement, China's state-run military construction company, NORINCO, will expand the Tehran Metro underground.

A second phase in the Iran-China strategic energy cooperation will involve constructing a pipeline in Iran to take oil some 386 kilometers to the Caspian Sea, there to link up with the planned pipeline from China into Kazakhstan.

On signing the deal, Iran's Petroleum Minister announced that Tehran would like to see China replace Japan as Iran's largest oil importer. As well, Iran has what are estimated to be the world's second largest reserves of natural gas after Russia. Iran is a place of enormous strategic importance to China, to Japan, to Russia, to the European Union, and for all these reasons, to Washington as well.

Iran supplies about 14% of China's oil. Along with Russia, China has been involved since the late 1990s in supplying nuclear technology to Tehran. In 1997, Beijing, under Washington pressure, nominally agreed to stop nuclear-related shipments to Iran, but the flows are believed continuing as the Iran relation is strategic and critical to China's energy security.

China, a veto member of the UN Security Council, has repeatedly called for the issue of Iranian nuclear development to be dealt with by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The IAEA's chief, Nobel Peace Prize awardee, Mohamed ElBaradei, has earned the enmity of Washington war hawks for his open declarations of lack of evidence in both Iraq and now of Iranian atomic bomb capability.

Given the nature of the Bush administration's rush to war in Iraq in 2003, where China had a major stake in oil development, and the subsequent US blocking of other Chinese attempts at securing energy independence, including Unocal, it is not surprising that Beijing is taking extraordinary measures to secure its long-term oil and gas supply.

Energy is the Achilles' heel of China's economic growth. Beijing knows that only too well. So does Washington. A decision by Washington to take military action against Iran now would pull a far larger cast of actors into the fray than Iraq.

F William Engdahl is author of the book, A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order from Pluto Press Ltd. He can be contacted via his website, www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net
"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you have to concentrate on." George W. Bush
by YUCA (msealesk@yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:30:39 PM EDT
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My recent thoughts on Israel/Lebanon/Hezbollah Wednesday, July 19, 2006 To address the "root cause" of the current episode of Arab/Israeli conflict, the U.S. should immediately cut off ALL military aid, munitions and armaments to Israel until such time as Israel has withdrawn its military, its citizens and settlements from the occupied territory to within its 1967 borders in compliance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 242. The wall must be removed and reparations made to Lebanon for the egregious destruction of its civil infrastructure. In exchange the Arab world, the U.S. and the UN must guarantee Israel's security within those 1967 borders. Wednesday, July 26, 2006 A grinning Condoleesa Rice meeting with Israeli leaders - denying the call for an immediate cease fire and blocking the cessation of the death and destruction being visited indiscriminately upon Lebanese civilians sends a clear message to the Arab street and the Muslim world that the United States is quite willing to continue the sacrifice of their lives in the interests of our client state, a state that has now invaded Lebanon for the third time, that still holds Lebanese territory and who inflicted a military occupation of their country for twenty years. What irreparable damage this policy and its grinning spokeswoman do to the interest of peace and justice in the area and to our image and the image of democracy in the world. Thursday, July 27, 2006 To oppose an immediate cease fire is to invest in the escalation of hatred and loss. Those who live to fight another day also live to refuse to fight another day. Those who die in the fight tomorrow leave a growing legacy of hatred and loss in an area of the world where traditionally hatred and loss must be paid out in blood. Mr. Bush defines terrorists as those who support the killing of innocent people to achieve political objectives. His `Let them fight - they only kill each other' policy is obscene. But our stock market and our profits are up. Sunday, July 30, 2006 George `I'm the decider' Bush continually demonstrates with his refusal to alter his mispronunciation of `nuclear', the simple-minded stubbornness that characterizes his jingoistic foreign policy, comprised of slogans and buzz words that ignore the historical plea for `freedom and liberty' made by the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank who still wait for the enforcement of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242. Our President should not talk about other states supporting `surrogates' while U.S. shipments of smart bombs (such as today killed fifty plus innocent civilian women, children and old people in Qana) are, at his direction, fast-tracked to Israel as a part of U.S. military aid to Israel that far exceeds the entire GDP of Lebanon and as Israel continues to kill innocent civilians at a rate ten times greater than their adversaries. As of Sunday evening July 30 at least 542 people have been killed in Lebanon, though the health minister estimated the toll at 750 including unrecovered bodies. Fifty-one Israelis have been killed in the war. I believe one can be anti-Zionist without being Anti-semitic and that American policy, with regard to our unqualified support for Israeli interests, should be re-examined.
Matt Grover
by Matthew Grover (matthewgrover@adelphia.com) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 04:34:34 PM EDT
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displaced.  Who will compensate them?
The UN?  The US? The Arab League?

What about Israel????
Raised eyebrows!
by New Actor (New Actor) on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 06:40:34 PM EDT
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to disband the terrorists militias in Lebanon. Would you enforce that one as well?
dmendelson
by dmendelson on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 05:05:35 PM EDT
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There will be no need for 1559 if Israeli ever kept their promises!

Ever noticed that Middle Eastern has no weapons?
People in Middle East dont like to own a weapon even for sport nor for private protection... Exclude Yemen (no comments about Yemen because you will call me by anti-myself) :D
God created man to build not to destroy
by 3arabi on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 10:28:09 PM EDT http://www.palsteen.com/
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dmendelson
by dmendelson on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 11:13:18 PM EDT
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http://www.counterpunch.org/schuh11182005.html

Isreali:
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3387

Hezbollah:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/481ydesv.asp?pg=1

Looks to me like the weight of advanced US weaponry against Popguns...120 missiles is a drop in the bucket compared to Isreal.
Oft Evil Will Shall Evil Mar - Theoden
by Not An American (naa-truthout@hotmail.com) on Tue Aug 1st, 2006 at 11:29:17 PM EDT
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Reports of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, U.S., Lebanese, British and other experts, ... [say] that Hezbollah has roughly 2,500 to 3,000 men. At their core are about 300 fighters. He says Hezbollah is equipped with armoured personnel carriers, artillery, rocket launchers, mortars, anti-tank guided missiles, recoilless rifles, surface-to-air missiles, and anti-aircraft guns. A New York Times article yesterday said that of Hezbollah's estimated 13,000 missiles and rockets, about 11,000 are believed to have been shipped from Iran and that Syria has also armed them with short- and medium-range rockets, some of which have been used in the current attacks on Israel.
(see http://www.iiss.org/whats-new/iiss-in-the-press/july-2006/what-rules-govern-the-conflict)

As of July 23, Hezbollah had already fired some 2,200 missiles at Israel according to Stratfor Global Intelligence.

Hezbollah has deployed a range of extremely sophisticated weapons against Israel. The most notable has been the Iranian C-802 Noor (Tondar) variant of the Chinese Silkworm missile that was used against an Israeli gunship off the Lebanese coast. Four Israeli sailors were killed, and the gunship was put out of commission.

The Associated Press reports that "Iran is believed to have supplied Hezbollah with up to 120 Fajr-3 and Fajr-5 rockets, with ranges of 22 miles and 45 miles respectively," noting that it was a Fajr-3 that is  thought to have been responsible for an attack on Haifa that killed 8 civilians. More recently, Israeli military officials have sought to destroy sites in Lebanon believed to house long-range Zelzal missiles of Iranian manufacture that they suspect are capable of hitting Tel Aviv. And while early reports that an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was responsible for the attack on the Israeli warship were inaccurate, Hezbollah is still assumed to possess several UAVs.
dmendelson
by dmendelson on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 10:17:58 AM EDT
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2,200 mainly Katyusha's that injured what - 50? Isreali civilians at last report?  The Katyusha is WWII technology and easily manufactured from mass produced rawmat that most modern armies would spurn - the Isreali's included.  Yes, there are 120 Silkworms/Fajr 3's  against what?

How many Gunships, F16's, Abrams does Isreal have?  Don't want to publish those numbers Drew?  What about unmanned drones with Hellfires, or Shrikes, or...get the idea?  How much money does the US support the IDF with?  3 BILLION a year?

So yeah, popguns against the weight of modern US military equipment!

And 3,000 man army against what?  Oh, they're deploying ANOTHER 10,000 IDF reservists for training?  As Sirius99 would say, "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining!"

I have no problem with Isreal existing as a state, as I said, I have no stake in this, I'm neither a Kike/Hebe/Hooknose/Red Sea Pedestrian nor a Raghead/Sand Nigger/Hadji, I'm ethnically a Mick/Kraut/Limey/Bohunk so unlike some people who are of the first two groups I have a slightly different perspective - if Hezbollah has to go so does the Mossad, if you yanks give Isreal 3 billion a year in aid so too should you give to Palestine, if an Isreali can vote, so too should a Palestinian....get the picture?  If the Isreali's paid reparations for land seized and stayed out of Palestine there would be a lot less trouble!  The current way you simply continue to create terrorists to perpetuate a continuous state of war sucking more life blood out of the USA to support Isreal - where do your allegiances lie?  You said you're a yank?

I found your negotiational starting points for ending the conflict so one sided that I was bound to counter them out of principal!  
Oft Evil Will Shall Evil Mar - Theoden
by Not An American (naa-truthout@hotmail.com) on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 01:43:06 PM EDT
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I'll second, third and fourth your motion mate. This person is pulling out all the stops on the moral high ground road. Disgusting!

by Angelgabriel on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 04:11:07 PM EDT
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"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 05:00:17 PM EDT
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I don't mind honest debate but the constant cherry picking and nit picking from this one is enough!

I'm pretty sure that some bastard in the IDF hit that UN base on purpose and killed a friend of people I know...there's no moral high ground there!  Just mens families grief, and a dead Lebanese Shepherd boy!

When this Jew Mendelson starts to regard the loss of all lives as though his own family were killed he might understand - however...

"To my knowledge this accusation of falsification is simply wrong. Both quotes appear in different Talmud books, the first quote "He who saves a
single life, saves the entire world." apparently comes from the Talmud Yerushalmi (Sanhedrin 4:9), whilst the other quote "Whosoever preserves
a single soul of Israel, Scripture ascribes to him as if he had preserved a complete world" comes from the Talmud Bavli (Bava Batra 11a
and elsewhere).

It is true that Jewish people consider the Talmud Bavli more authoritative, but nevertheless it is wrong to state that Spielberg is falsifying the contents of Jewish books in this particular case."

and the link is...

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.py?antisemitism/talmud/who-saves-one-life
Oft Evil Will Shall Evil Mar - Theoden
by Not An American (naa-truthout@hotmail.com) on Wed Aug 2nd, 2006 at 11:43:21 PM EDT
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Not an American, huh? With the level of bigotry and piggish anti-semitism you display, you seem to be a relic of the Third Reich. Can't you debate wihtout name calling or making thinly veiled threats against my family?

As to my ideas for how to settle things, of course they are one sided, that's how you negotiate in a democracy. Compromise comes after each side has laid out its opening position.

So perhaps you would care to lay out your ideas on how to gain Middle East peace?
dmendelson
by dmendelson on Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 at 10:27:20 AM EDT
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but not Anti-Arab, nor Anti-Humanist either...

Ah yes, the old "fascist ploy"...old and tired!  I was not anti-semite, after listening to you I might reconsider!

I gave you my thoughts - twice - read them.  Thanks.
Oft Evil Will Shall Evil Mar - Theoden
by Not An American (naa-truthout@hotmail.com) on Thu Aug 3rd, 2006 at 04:59:27 PM EDT
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 So You agree the Katusha is stickly a TERROR weapon, designed to inflict indiscriminate injury and terror on civillians.

by Oso on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 01:03:10 AM EDT
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otherwise they would serve no purpose!

You pick up a rock, I pick up an axe...who's going to be more terrified is the name of the game as the two ape descendants puff out their chests, and square off their shoulders trying to look more intimidating.

In WWII it was common practice to bomb infrastructure to disrupt economies and production...I suppose to you that's justified.  At any rate, there is a report somewhere on this thread that stated that the Katyushas have managed to disrupt the Isreali economy, albeit not quite as effectively as the US Apaches and F16's.

So you agree the Apache and F16 are stickly a TERROR weapon, designed to inflict indiscriminate injury and terror on civillians?  Oh yeah, stupid me, course not, they're Yankee products!
Oft Evil Will Shall Evil Mar - Theoden
by Not An American (naa-truthout@hotmail.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 08:10:59 AM EDT
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/746291.html

Later, forces fired a tank shell at residents gathering in the area after daybreak, killing an eight-year-old boy and wounding three people, one a four-year-old girl, hospital and security officials said. Three more bodies were brought to the hospital early yesterday, but they are not believed to be militants, medics said.

Rafah Governor Zuhdi al-Qudra said yesterday afternoon that Israeli forces had taken over the roofs of houses near the airport, and medics were still unable to get to areas where casualties had been reported from earlier fighting. He pleaded for the international community to help stop Israel's offensive.

The Israeli army confirmed that there were troops in the area around the airport, but denied that they were impeding the work of medics
"We must be the change we wish to see in the world." -- Mahatma Ghandi
by earthymom on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 07:40:21 AM EDT
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